Baseball broadcasts on radio these days are not just about calling a game. Broadcasters have to sell products, keep up interest in the team, entertain guests and oh yeah, deliver a quality call so you, the listener know what is happening in the game.
Things have changed from the old days of baseball play-by-play. It’s no longer a “straight forward” broadcast that deals with the game in front of them and really nothing else.
Now broadcasters have to be up on all the news from around the league, their team and be up on all the new statistical information provided to them. Plus, they have to entertain an audience no matter what the score or how their team is doing in the standings. It’s not as easy as it may sound.
Longtime Diamondback’s play-by-play man Greg Schulte, now in his 21st season behind the microphone agrees, these aren’t your father’s baseball broadcasts. Innovation is alive for some teams.
“Candy (partner Tom Candiotti) & I have gotten in to more discussions about current baseball happenings,” Schulte said. “We’re doing twitter polls on-air. Incorporated a Dbacks minute in place of a pair of half-inning commercial breaks. It’s a lot different listening to a radio game now, than it was when I was a kid growing up.
“I loved using my imagination listening to Harry Caray & Jack Buck describe Cardinals baseball. I still love talking about the stadium, team uniforms, scoreboard, hot dog vendors, as I bring people inside the ballpark. Try and be as descriptive as I can each and every night.”, Schulte said.
Ted Leitner who is calling his 40th year of Padres baseball (and my former partner in that booth) has a style that’s all his own. The beloved broadcaster shared a thought on how he likes to keep an audience entertained.
“I’ve always thought baseball play by play should include stories-even occasionally non-sports stories and humor in a sport where there really is only about 12 minutes of action in a three hour broadcast.” Leitner added, “Just ‘ball 1 ball 2 and reams of stats I believe is insufficient.”
The downside of trying to entertain is not everyone is doing a non-traditional broadcast. Leitner says, “Doing that can lead to criticism from fans and you’ll get the ‘just shut up and give the score’ comments from listeners. (It’s a) Matter of taste.” says the veteran broadcaster.
I also wanted to know how broadcasters balance the game with everything else going on around.
“I’m still a stickler on letting the listening fan know what’s going on, handling the play-by-play duties,” Schulte says. “Nothing worse – in my mind – than someone listening and hearing the crack of the bat against the ball, and not get a description of what just happened. That’s tough to manage when we have a guest in the booth.”
It is becoming a little more common for teams to put front office members, celebrities at the park, and draft picks on the air for a half inning or more. The problem is the guests don’t always understand that on radio every pitch needs to be called.
I’ve had situations come up where a guest just won’t stop to let me get a call in. It’s frustrating but at the same time, it’s important to be a team player and allow for that possibility because the team wants that person or group on the air to promote something.
Lastly, I was curious how each of these broadcasters handled replay reviews. Obviously listeners can’t see the play that is being challenged, so what do you do?
“On replays, Candy (Tom Candiotti) and I usually take a couple looks at the replay in question and form an opinion, right or wrong.”, says Schulte. “I may throw in a few out-of-town scores if it turns into a long delay, maybe recap the scoring, but I’m always ready to move right back to what the ruling is from New York.”
Leitner’s approach is just slightly different.
“I think the focus on review has to be solely on that play. Watching the TV replay and passing that on to the listeners from every angle shown. We really don’t need to fill much time for the average review span so there’s no need to refer to any other play or subject.”
No matter the era, or changes to the game, no matter the changes in philosophy for what a broadcast should be, baseball is meant for the radio. There’s nothing better on a Summer afternoon or evening than sitting in your car or house hearing the crack of the bat, the murmur of the crowd, the vendor hawking his wares and a familiar voice. The Voices of Summer are on the case bringing you the National Pastime in its purist form, even if that art form has changed a little bit.
Being Wrong On-Air Isn’t A Bad Thing
…if you feel yourself getting uncomfortable over the fact that you were wrong, stop to realize that’s your pride talking. Your ego. And if people call you out for being wrong, it’s actually a good sign.
In the press conference after the Warriors won their fourth NBA title in eight years, Steph Curry referenced a very specific gesture from a very specific episode of Get Up that aired in August 2021.
“Clearly remember some experts and talking heads putting up the big zero,” Curry said, then holding up a hollowed fist to one eye, looking through it as if it were a telescope.
“How many championships we would have going forward because of everything we went through.”
Yep, Kendrick Perkins and Domonique Foxworth each predicted the Warriors wouldn’t win a single title over the course of the four-year extension Curry had just signed. The Warriors won the NBA title and guess what? Curry gets to gloat.
The funny part to me was the people who felt Perkins or Foxworth should be mad or embarrassed. Why? Because they were wrong?
That’s part of the game. If you’re a host or analyst who is never wrong in a prediction, it’s more likely that you’re excruciatingly boring than exceedingly smart. Being wrong is not necessarily fun, but it’s not a bad thing in this business.
You shouldn’t try to be wrong, but you shouldn’t be afraid of it, either. And if you are wrong, own it. Hold your L as I’ve heard the kids say. Don’t try to minimize it or explain it or try to point out how many other people are wrong, too. Do what Kendrick Perkins did on Get Up the day after the Warriors won the title.
“When they go on to win it, guess what?” He said, sitting next to Mike Greenberg. “You have to eat that.”
Do not do what Perkins did later that morning on First Take.
Perkins: “I come on here and it’s cool, right? Y’all can pull up Perk receipts and things to that nature. And then you give other people a pass like J-Will.”
Jason Williams: “I don’t get passes on this show.”
Perkins: “You had to, you had a receipt, too, because me and you both picked the Memphis Grizzlies to beat the Golden State Warriors, but I’m OK with that. I’m OK with that. Go ahead Stephen A. I know you’re about to have fun and do your thing. Go ahead.”
Stephen A. Smith: “First of all, I’m going to get serious for a second with the both of you, especially you, Perk, and I want to tell you something right now. Let me throw myself on Front Street, we can sit up there and make fun of me. You know how many damn Finals predictions I got wrong? I don’t give a damn. I mean, I got a whole bunch of them wrong. Ain’t no reason to come on the air and defend yourself. Perk, listen man. You were wrong. And we making fun, and Steph Curry making fun of you. You laugh at that my brother. He got you today. That’s all. He got you today.”
It’s absolutely great advice, and if you feel yourself getting uncomfortable over the fact that you were wrong, stop to realize that’s your pride talking. Your ego. And if people call you out for being wrong, it’s actually a good sign. It means they’re not just listening, but holding on to what you say. You matter. Don’t ruin that by getting defensive and testy.
WORTH EVERY PENNY
I did a double-take when I saw Chris Russo’s list of the greatest QB-TE combinations ever on Wednesday and this was before I ever got to Tom Brady-to-Rob Gronkowski listed at No. 5. It was actually No. 4 that stopped me cold: Starr-Kramer.
My first thought: Jerry Kramer didn’t play tight end.
My second thought: I must be unaware of this really good tight end from the Lombardi-era Packers.
After further review, I don’t think that’s necessarily true, either. Ron Kramer did play for the Lombardi-era Packers, and he was a good player. He caught 14 scoring passes in a three-year stretch where he really mattered, but he failed to catch a single touchdown pass in six of the 10 NFL seasons he played. He was named first-team All-Pro once and finished his career with 229 receptions.
Now this is not the only reason that this is an absolutely terrible list. It is the most egregious, however. Bart Starr and Kramer are not among the 25 top QB-TE combinations in NFL history let alone the top five. And if you’re to believe Russo’s list, eighty percent of the top tandems played in the NFL in the 30-year window from 1958 to 1987 with only one tandem from the past 30 years meriting inclusion when this is the era in which tight end production has steadily climbed.
Then I found out that Russo is making $10,000 per appearance on “First Take.”
My first thought: You don’t have to pay that much to get a 60-something white guy to grossly exaggerate how great stuff used to be.
My second thought: That might be the best $10,000 ESPN has ever spent.
Once a week, Russo comes on and draws a reaction out of a younger demographic by playing a good-natured version of Dana Carvey’s Grumpy Old Man. Russo groans to JJ Redick about the lack of fundamental basketball skills in today’s game or he proclaims the majesty of a tight end-quarterback pairing that was among the top five in its decade, but doesn’t sniff the top five of all-time.
And guess what? It works. Redick rolls his eyes, asks Russo which game he’s watching, and on Wednesday he got me to spend a good 25 minutes looking up statistics for some Packers tight end I’d never heard of. Not satisfied with that, I then moved on to determine Russo’s biggest omission from the list, which I’ve concluded is Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates, who connected for 89 touchdowns over 15 seasons, which is only 73 more touchdowns than Kramer scored in his career. John Elway and Shannon Sharpe should be on there, too.
Money Isn’t The Key Reason Why Sellers Sell Sports Radio
I started selling sports radio because I enjoyed working with clients who loved sports, our station, and wanted to reach fans with our commercials and promotions.
A radio salesperson’s value being purely tied to money is overrated to me. Our managers all believe that our main motivation for selling radio is to make more money. They see no problem in asking us to sell more in various ways because it increases our paycheck. We are offered more money to sell digital, NTR, to sell another station in the cluster, weekend remotes, new direct business, or via the phone in 8 hours.
But is that why you sell sports radio?
In 2022, the Top 10 highest paying sales jobs are all in technology. Not a media company among them. You could argue that if it were all about making money, we should quit and work in tech. Famous bank robber Willie Sutton was asked why he robbed twenty banks over twenty years. He reportedly said,” that’s where the money is”. Sutton is the classic example of a person who wanted what money could provide and was willing to do whatever it took to get it, BUT he also admitted he liked robbing banks and felt alive. So, Sutton didn’t do it just for the money.
A salesperson’s relationship with money and prestige is also at the center of the play Death of a Salesman. Willy Loman is an aging and failing salesman who decides he is worth more dead than alive and kills himself in an auto accident giving his family the death benefit from his life insurance policy. Loman wasn’t working for the money. He wanted the prestige of what money could buy for himself and his family.
Recently, I met a woman who spent twelve years selling radio from 1999-2011. I asked her why she left her senior sales job. She said she didn’t like the changes in the industry. Consolidation was at its peak, and most salespeople were asked to do more with less help. She described her radio sales job as one with “golden handcuffs”. The station paid her too much money to quit even though she hated the job. She finally quit. The job wasn’t worth the money to her.
I started selling sports radio because I enjoyed working with clients who loved sports, our station, and wanted to reach fans with our commercials and promotions. I never wanted to sell anything else and specifically enjoyed selling programming centered around reaching fans of Boise State University football. That’s it. Very similar to what Mark Glynn and his KJR staff experience when selling Kraken hockey and Huskies football.
I never thought selling sports radio was the best way to make money. I just enjoyed the way I could make money. I focused on the process and what I enjoyed about the position—the freedom to come and go and set my schedule for the most part. I concentrated on annual contracts and clients who wanted to run radio commercials over the air to get more traffic and build their brand.
Most of my clients were local direct and listened to the station. Some other sales initiatives had steep learning curves, were one-day events or contracted out shaky support staff. In other words, the money didn’t motivate me enough. How I spent my time was more important.
So, if you are in management, maybe consider why your sales staff is working at the station. Because to me, they’d be robbing banks if it were all about making lots of money.
Media Noise: BSM Podcast Network Round Table
Demetri Ravanos welcomes the two newest members of the BSM Podcast Network to the show. Brady Farkas and Stephen Strom join for a roundtable discussion that includes the new media, Sage Steele and Roger Goodell telling Congress that Dave Portnoy isn’t banned from NFL events.