Creating great content as a sports radio host is challenging enough right now without the support of live sports. Professional sports leagues are suspended indefinitely and broadcast companies are making budget cuts, but amid the chaos, a new nightly show debuted on CBS Sports Radio.
JRSportBrief, with host J.R. Jackson launched Monday, Mar. 23, taking over the 10pm – 2am timeslot previously held by Ferrall On The Bench. There’s a reason not many national radio shows launch during the MLB All-Star break. But having no sports isn’t a concern for J.R. who’s used to creating his own content.
Not a prototypical background for a sports radio host, he built his own brand and succeeded in the digital space at a young age. For J.R., building a sports show without sports to watch isn’t hard. Building a radio show without being able to walk down the street and talk to people during the COVID-19 pandemic is the more challenging part. J.R. is a host that values his listeners and wants to get to know them on a personal level to further the sense of community.
He joins CBS Sports Radio having already been a daily contributor to Entercom with V103 in Atlanta as a morning show host. Even though he’s on nationally until 2am every night, J.R. can still be heard regularly on V103, contributing to The Morning Culture and hosting with The Big Tigger Show in the afternoon
Brandon Contes: You have a unique story, because you built your own brand and did it rather quickly, you didn’t go to a broadcasting school like Syracuse for four years first. What made you want to start creating content?
J.R. Jackson: Entertainment has always been part of my life. My uncle was a radio DJ named Fatman Scoop and I grew up in New York watching him at Hot97. From there, I met my current manager and business partner Charlie Stettler.
I was encouraged to start my own video sports blog by Fred Seibert who ran a company called Next New Networks. It was one of the first internet video production companies and he sold it to Google. He had a lot of different shows – auto, cooking, but he didn’t have sports. He knew I was producing content for other people and said, ‘I know you love sports, if you can start your own sports blog, I would love to distribute it.’ I went home and started JRSportBrief. I kept cranking out content, got a couple million views in the first few years and then I signed a distribution agreement with Fred and continued growing the platform organically. Reaching out to people, building media and athlete relationships. It was literally shaking the hands of sports fans online and on YouTube and going out and doing the same in the community.
BC: Radio has a very hard time figuring out how to track and monetize digital platforms, but you turned it into a full-time job rather quickly, you made it into a business. How do you view the connection between radio and digital?
JR: At the end of the day, content is content, it’s just a matter of how you go about finding it. Every strong brand, every strong personality and radio station, it doesn’t matter if it’s an Instagram page or radio station, it’s built off the content you produce.
We now produce video content at our radio stations that gets distributed digitally. The same content we do on our shows, it goes right out to social media platforms, so it doesn’t matter if you’re in your car, at work, on the subway, you can open up your phone and have it. Digital and radio is very symbiotic.
BC: Is it difficult hosting and launching a sports show when there are no live sports right now?
JR: Not at all, life is difficult. The people who have to go out and do grunt work and deal with the climate we’re in, that’s difficult work. Me talking for four hours isn’t work. People are looking for familiar voices, they’re looking for diversions and they’re looking for a sense of community.
My first night with the new show on CBS Sports Radio I wanted to bring on Daymond John from Shark Tank, because he’s not shooting hoops or hitting baseballs, but he can speak about elements that are relevant to everybody, not just athletes or sports fans. There are a lot of stories that are relatable to fans, and radio stations have an opportunity to keep people on schedule, to be familiar and build a sense of community. At the end of the day, sports is a microcosm of life and there are a lot of stories to tell that deal with humanity. I don’t think sports radio is just reciting stats or arguing a point. There’s a big human element to it, so it’s not difficult at all.
BC: You mentioned the importance of building a community and talking to a lot of people, do you like taking calls? Because especially with national shows, there are differing opinions about whether or not they can enhance a show, some hosts do it, but plenty don’t like caller interaction because they feel it can derail a show.
JR: There’s no such thing. The people who listen to you are not derailing anything. It’s community based and I made it clear on my show that the people who listen, this is their show. I go back to when I started on JRSportBrief, the tagline I use is, “by a fan, for the fan.”
I’m not your prototypical sports fan given my relationships and position, but it’s about community. We’re not supposed to be out here shaking hands, we’re supposed to stay six feet apart from each other. But there is no show if the fans don’t listen and you can’t communicate with your people. I more than like taking calls, this is a show for the people. It’s their show. They will have a voice, they do have a voice and that’s me at my core. I want to go out and meet the people who I’m listening to.
BC: How do you sort through so many different topics and different options? Especially with national radio, there’s already so much you can dive into whereas locally, if you’re in New York on WFAN today, you know you’re talking about Robby Anderson and Noah Syndergaard’s elbow. But without sports, you really have a blank canvas daily, can that be daunting at all?
JR: It’s beautiful to have a blank canvas because you can put something together without barriers. How many of us, every single day can wake up and say I have a blank canvas to go out and do something awesome?
For me, it boils down to having your finger on the pulse of what’s going on. Whether it’s local or national, it doesn’t make a difference because I know what’s going on. I can’t do it in this climate with the coronavirus, but I get outside, I love walking around New York, I love walking around Atlanta, I love talking to the security guard, the receptionist, people at restaurants. I love talking and meeting listeners at remotes. Talking to fans, being at the stadium and getting to know managers, agents and players. When you know what’s going on, it’s not hard to tailor that message to the audience.
BC: Launching a sports radio show without sports, it might not be the optimal time to build a new show, but as you said, building a successful radio show is so much about creating a community of listeners. Is there anything to the idea that having this freedom to talk about anything you want can help listeners get to know you quicker on a personal level?
JR: Absolutely. My background, as you said, is not traditional. I didn’t go to Syracuse. I didn’t go to a broadcasting school, I learned all elements of this from the ground up. Pure experience. I put myself out there and built the platform.
For me, it’s all about community and I think I have a well-rounded experience from both production and being able to relate to different people. I’m not afraid to be on the lower end of the building hanging out with the security guards, and I’m also not afraid to hack it up with the president or multi-billionaire. People are people. Some people can only talk about sports, can only recite and regurgitate numbers. I’m a person, I’m a human being, I have varying interests.
BC: You have the perfect personality for launching a sports show without sports because you clearly have confidence in your entertainment value and the ability to know you can go off the cuff and talk about whatever topic rolls your way.
JR: This goes beyond sports for me, but it’s a matter of always being ready and always being prepared. I grew up in a military family and there’s not going to be a stone left unturned. There’s not going to be an alternative when you boil things down. You do it, or you don’t, there’s no middle.
There’s nothing I would do that I’m not going to be prepared for. This is not the greatest time in the history of our world. It’s not the greatest time with people passing away and getting sick. But this is also a time to realize our humanity and connect with one another. I’m not Mother Teresa healing the world and praying for it in totality, but I’m just trying to do my part with something I enjoy. Entertain folks and give them a platform, that’s extremely important to me.
BC: It’s too bad you didn’t start your show a week earlier because I kept hearing ‘the only live sporting event right now is the Iditarod’ and I bet not many sports radio hosts have the experience you do of going to Alaska and riding on a dog sled!
Jr: [Laughs] Alaska is beautiful and that’s something I have – that my background is really varied. I’ve been all over the world – India, Alaska, Brazil. It put me in a beautiful spot. I can sit here and say I’ve had conversations with everyone from President Clinton to Young Jeezy.
I have a unique background in entertainment, but mainly in the people business. When I think about my brand of sports and how I want to approach people, it’s no different than me sitting with you at the bar, or in a friend’s basement having a beer and watching the game. That’s how I want it to come across with listeners. I’m an ordinary guy just like everybody else. I like to throw out my trash, I like to figure out what meal I want to cook. It’s a real community and right now, what we’re doing on radio is allowing people to try and be normal.
BC: You’ve had these great experiences through your JRSportBrief platform, is there one that stands out the most?
JR: Nobody ever believes this answer, but I speak to a lot of classrooms and have for years. It’s always cool on career day when there’s an accountant, a guidance counselor, a lawyer – and then I talk about sports. Connecting with people is the standout moment.
It’s not meeting President Clinton, hanging out with Usain Bolt or talking to the late great Kobe. All of those are great moments, but at a point in time they become washed. They’re all people, all human beings to me, but that deep connection is what I value. At the end of the day, the material goods, the money, it doesn’t matter if I’m in a mansion or an apartment. I believe in people and I believe in experience. That’s the best moment, every time I can connect with somebody, because I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for that.
BC: Who were your biggest media influences growing up?
JR: I watched and paid close attention to everybody. Oprah, Stern, Wendy Williams – the way her show is produced is awesome. Growing up in New York, being able to listen to Mike and the Mad Dog and see how they format. It’s about taking different pieces of how people communicate, how they deliver their message and figure out how you can put it together yourself.
BC: You’ve talked a lot about building a community and involving the listeners, but what about utilizing people who work on the show? Is your show a collaboration?
JR: Absolutely! Anybody who thinks they know everything and can do everything isn’t that smart. I like collaboration and for someone who talks for a living, I like to listen, I like to learn, I like to absorb. I would be dumb as hell if I didn’t take advice. Surprisingly, I do even more listening than I do speaking. So, to have producers and folks who can give me advice and chime in as well, I want that.
BC: What about from a management standpoint? Who’s helped you the most?
JR: My uncle, Fatman Scoop was my first influence in radio. My current partner and manager Charlie Stettler managed Ed Lover and Dr. Dre and helped get them one of the largest deals early on in hip hop on radio. I’ve had plenty of influences that have helped along the way. Ironically, for someone who started off on YouTube, it’s all a matter of how you push the information out. Whether it’s radio, YouTube, TV, they’re all just different mediums. It’s like going to the buffet and saying what type of pizza do you want? A slice? Sicilian? It’s all pizza at the end of the day, just a matter of how you want to eat it.
BC: You’ve built your own brand, you’ve built a network, you’re a local radio host, a national radio host, what’s the next goal?
JR: It’s connecting with people and wherever that goes is fine by me. That’s always been my goal. Grow and at the same time provide opportunities for other people. It’s pretty cool to see people who have asked me for advice, then come up and do what I’m doing, and I’d be thrilled if they did what I did and went even further.
At the end of the day, I think legacy is what you do for yourself that makes you happy. It’s also what can you do for other people. I’ve seen that over the years and I’m very happy. I will continue to connect with folks and lay out the red carpet for people to say, ‘wow, this is a dude who started on YouTube and look what he’s doing.’
I can’t wait to continue to use my own voice to connect with listeners and give them a diversion, but also to encourage other people to build their brand and their businesses. I’d feel like I’m in a silo if I just sat and spoke. I want to see other people win and that’s what I want to continue to facilitate.
Brandon Contes is a former reporter for BSM, now working for Awful Announcing. You can find him on Twitter @BrandonContes or reach him by email at Brandon.Contes@gmail.com.
Jac Collinsworth Has Learned From The Best
“The way he would take all of the young people, myself included, under his wings. You couldn’t get this anywhere else.”
Jac Collinsworth got his first taste of Notre Dame football while watching his brother Austin play for the Fighting Irish. There was his brother playing on special teams and getting a chance to return kicks.
“I remember sitting in the stands for his first football game inside Notre Dame Stadium thinking this is the coolest thing I’ve been a part of,” said Collinsworth. “The history of this building and my brother is out there in a Notre Dame jersey.”
Not only did Jac eventually go to Notre Dame as well, but he just completed his first season as the play-by-play voice for Notre Dame Football on NBC. As a student, Jac was part of the NBC sideline production team during his four-year education at South Bend from 2013 to 2017 and he was the sideline reporter for the NBC broadcast of the Blue/Gold spring game in 2016 and 2017.
“To work on the broadcasts for four years — as an intern really — with Alex Flanagan and then with Kathryn Tappen for three years down there on the sideline and being in all those production meetings, it was such an invaluable piece of the journey for me.”
And now, the 27-year-old is the television voice of the Fighting Irish.
“To see it all come full circle and be up there in the booth, it was really a special experience every single game,” said Collinsworth.
After graduating from Notre Dame, Collinsworth joined ESPN where he was a correspondent for NFL Live and Sunday NFL Countdown while also hosting the ESPN-owned ACC Network’s football show The Huddle.
Jac then returned to NBC in 2020 and was part of the Notre Dame telecasts during the pregame show and halftime show for two seasons. Collinsworth had the opportunity to learn under veteran play-by-play voice Mike Tirico, especially during the production meetings.
Tirico became a mentor to Collinsworth.
“I felt like I was getting a graduate degree watching him handle those meetings,” said Collinsworth. “The way he would take all of the young people, myself included, under his wings. You couldn’t get this anywhere else. To be able to do that for two years and still have him as a close friend and somebody I can text…I text with him before every single game.”
Another huge mentor to Collinsworth has been the legendary Al Michaels, the former play-by-play voice for Sunday Night Football who is now calling the Thursday night package for Amazon.
“I talk to him all the time,” said Collinsworth. “I’ve had dinner with him. He invites me out to play golf. We just get on the phone and spent 45 minutes just breaking down everything. Every time that phone rings I don’t care what I’m in the middle of, I walk outside and I take that call.”
Collinsworth, the son of former Bengals wide receiver and current NFL Sunday Night Football analyst Cris Collinsworth, first felt the broadcasting itch growing up in Ft. Thomas, Kentucky. It goes without saying that his father was a huge influence, but Jac remembers when Highlands High School was being renovated when he was in 7th and 8th grade.
The first part of the renovation was a brand-new broadcast facility.
“It was a studio that had these amazing cameras, a desk, lights and two sets,” recalled Collinsworth. “To this day, I’ve never seen a high school setup…I mean this is better than most college setups…a state of-the-art facility.”
The class was called “Introduction to Filmmaking” and Collinsworth started out wanted to be a cameraman.
“I became obsessed with running around the school and filming all this stuff whatever students were doing,” said Collinsworth.
From there, Jac gained experience in editing and producing but deep down inside he thought he wanted to be a cameraman…that was until his first taste of on-air experience.
“They started a rotation where everybody in the class had to try hosting the announcements live right before the final period of the day,” said Collinsworth.
And the rest is history.
An important part of Jac’s growth as a play-by-play announcer came last spring working NBC’s coverage of the United States Football League. Paired with Jason Garrett, Collinsworth was able to continue the learning process before taking over the Notre Dame duties. He appreciated the fact that these were really good football players that were among the best players on their college teams and could very well be in the NFL.
And just like for the players, the USFL was an opportunity for Jac to get better at his craft.
“Just continuing to learn the art form of calling a game,” said Collinsworth. “The timing and getting out of the way sometimes and letting the broadcast breathe and rising for those big moments.”
An incredibly big moment for Jack would be if the opportunity to work a game with his father ever presented himself. It’s something that he’s thought about and would love to see come to fruition somewhere down the road.
But if that happens, there could be a problem for the viewers.
“Would anybody be able to tell who is talking?” joked Jac.
Jac and his father sound so much alike it’s scary. In fact, during our twenty-minute phone conversation, I really had to pay attention to listen for any discernable difference between Jac and his dad and it was very hard to find any.
But it would still be fascinating to hear them work together.
“I think it would be a very cool experience,” said Jac. “We would have so much chemistry that it would be a crazy experience. I would love to do it. I’d be getting out of his way and let him make points and I wouldn’t be afraid to take a couple of shots at him. I think it would be damn entertaining.”
While their on-air roles are different, Jac has been able to learn a lot about broadcasting from his father. While he does — for the most part — give his son some space when it comes to work, Cris leaves Jac a note prior to each broadcast, mainly has it pertains to a specific aspect of a telecast like coming back from a break or the flow of a telecast.
But there’s one valuable lesson that Jac learned from his dad years ago that he has adopted for himself.
“Probably the biggest thing I’ve learned from him is, he is a worker man,” said Collinsworth. “He just works at this stuff.”
Jac would constantly see his father going through film at various hours during the day, but Cris would still pay close attention to his son’s studies at school and would let Jac know about it if he saw something wasn’t right.
Like when Jac would be having some difficulty with a math assignment.
“I’m like ‘Dad, this is calculus, I can’t figure out how to do this equation’,” said Jac. “He would put that clicker down and come up and he would be deep in the math book going through the chapters learning all this calculus that he hasn’t done in 40 years. I’d come down at six in the morning and he’d still be flipping through the math book while I’m eating breakfast and he’s teaching me the lesson to make sure I got it for the quiz.
“That’s how he was…just the work element is the biggest thing that I still use every day and I definitely got it from him.”
Aside from his football duties, Collinsworth has also been a NASCAR studio analyst for NBC and he’s also been the voice of Atlantic Ten Men’s Basketball and the Atlantic Ten Tournament. There’s something to be said for getting experience in multiple sports because each sport has its own pace and its own flow.
Some play-by-play voices specialize in one sport and some can handle multiple assignments. In Jac’s case, there’s one sport that stand above all the others.
“The rhythm, feel and flow of a football game is my favorite,” said Collinsworth. “Football has always been my first love and grew up around it. Basketball happens fast not to mention you’re on the court and you’re right there in the middle of it. I’ve called baseball games too and that’s a very slow game.”
Jac Collinsworth is still very early in his broadcasting career but he has great talent and he’s been rewarded with some amazing opportunities like Notre Dame Football and being part of NBC’s NFL coverage.
But he knows that he’s had some help along the way and he’s very grateful for it.
“I feel like I’m living out a dream and I feel like I’m standing on a lot of people’s shoulders that helped me get there,” said Collinsworth. “I think about a lot of people who didn’t need to but chose to help me when I was a kid. I feel like I have a great responsibility to take that advice and take it as far as I can and that’s what I’m trying to do.”
And it all started with a high school television studio and his willingness to try all different aspects of the business.
Peter Schwartz has been involved in New York sports media for over three decades. Along the way he has worked for notable brands such as WFAN, CBS Sports Radio, WCBS 880, ESPN New York, and FOX News Radio. He has also worked as a play by play announcer for the New Yok Riptide, New York Dragons, New York Hitmen, Varsity Media and the Long Island Sports Network. You can find him on Twitter @SchwartzSports or email him at DragonsRadio@aol.com.
Chris Kinard Has 106.7 The Fan, The Team 980 Primed For Continued Success
“Coming right out of the books and beating our direct competitor in the first month will always be something I’m proud of.”
When Jim Riggleman resigned as manager of the Washington Nationals in June 2011, it was the first time Chris Kinard thought the fanbase cared about the team.
Riggleman wanted the Nationals to pick up the option on his contract and effectively remove the “interim” tag from his job description, and once they declined to do so, he essentially packed up and left.
From the time he was young, Chris Kinard was interested in media, and he had early exposure in the industry since his uncle Lee worked as a television news anchor in Greensboro, N.C. The elder Kinard was the pioneer of the Good Morning Show on WFMY News 2 and was honored with the dedication of the main studio in his honor from where he worked since 1956.
By the time he was in fifth grade, Chris Kinard began listening to radio and realizing it may be a viable career path for him to pursue. He shadowed his uncle in 1996 to learn about news media and television broadcasting; however, he gravitated towards working in radio in part because of WJFK-FM, and had an affinity towards professional sports.
“A local morning show here in D.C. on a top 40 station was kind of my entry point,” Kinard said. “I listened to that show actually when it moved over to WJFK for years in middle school and high school.”
At the time, WJFK-FM was broadcasting in the talk format and was among the network of stations syndicating The Howard Stern Show and other programming targeted towards the male 25-54 demographic. Kinard was an avid listener of the station, tuning in to its programming for several hours a day over the course of many years.
Today, it is known as 106.7 The Fan and it is managed, along with Audacy’s cluster of radio stations by Kinard himself. He was responsible for flipping the station’s format from talk to sports in 2009 and has helped cement the brand as dominant in the ratings.
“Flipping the station to sports will always be a bittersweet thing for me,” Kinard said. “I grew up with the station [in] the previous format and I took a lot of pride in what we were doing at the time, but I think we launched with great success. Coming right out of the books and beating our direct competitor in the first month will always be something I’m proud of.”
During his freshman year at American University, he got word that The Sports Junkies were making a public appearance a few minutes away from his childhood home. Additionally, he found out the show was looking for people to volunteer to serve as interns, an opportunity he knew was simply too good to pass up.
Inherently shy, Kinard introduced himself with the hopes of landing an internship at WJFK-FM. A few weeks later, he received a phone call informing him that he was selected to work as an intern, a surreal opportunity for him to begin working in sports media. Little did he know he would still be working at the station, albeit in a more substantial role, 25 years later.
“When it started and when I was actually in the building and seeing the behind the scenes, I was kind of in awe,” Kinard said. “….I had no idea what I was doing really except that I really wanted to be there and couldn’t believe that I was and wanted to soak it all in.”
Three months later, one of the show’s producers who largely acted as a call screener left the station to pursue another opportunity in media. As a result, there was a gap to be filled, and since Kinard had been diligent and responsible as an intern, he was hired part-time to take over the role. At the conclusion of his sophomore year in college, he was hired full-time as the producer of The Sports Junkies – a development in his career he calls “fortuitous” initially difficult to foresee balancing with two years remaining to earn his undergraduate degree.
“It was a really kind of interesting conversation with my parents about whether to do it or not and how it would impact my schoolwork and that kind of thing,” Kinard said. “I just was determined to take that opportunity; I knew how scarce they were I guess just by seeing people who had been at the station and working part-time [for] several years who had left because they couldn’t get a full-time position.”
By the time he was in his junior and senior years, Kinard had valuable professional experience from working at WJFK-FM and also interning at the local ABC affiliate station. Although he participated in some of the student-run media outlets at the school, his mindset was to prioritize what he was doing off campus.
“I’m not sure that I actually got a lot out of college to be honest with you because I was doing it outside of school already just by kind of virtue of connections,” Kinard said. “Being in Washington, D.C. and all the opportunities that are available here, [that was] really… my focus more than anything else.”
During his first year as show producer, The Sports Junkies became nationally syndicated on Westwood One Radio and was achieving notoriety and high ratings within the marketplace. The show is hosted by four childhood best friends – John Auville, Eric Bickel, Jason Bishop, and John-Paul Flaim – who began the program on public access television in Bowie, Maryland before joining WJFK-FM as evening hosts in 1996. None of them had any formal broadcast training, instead utilizing their indelible chemistry and local background to auspiciously impact sports media.
“They’re very authentic,” Kinard expressed. “I think when people hear them, they can relate to them. They sound like every guy’s group of friends sound when you get together. I think they sound like our city; they sound like sports fans in Washington over the last 30 years.”
All four co-hosts recently inked four-year contract extensions to keep The Sports Junkies on 106.7 The Fan, officially putting pen to paper together in studio earlier this month.
Since 2016, The Sports Junkies has been simulcast on NBC Sports Washington, and although listeners now have the ability to add a visual component to their experience, it did not change how any of the co-hosts approach the job. From the beginning, there was a mutual understanding that the show would still operate in the same way with the cameras serving the purpose of pulling back the metaphorical curtain.
“It is really a fast-paced show in terms of the camera switching and the direction of it because there’s four guys, so I think this show translates really well,” Kinard said. “There’s a lot going on because there are four hosts, not just two talking heads. There’s also two producers that chime in a lot. There’s a lot of movement, I think, within the show because of just how dynamic of a cast it is.”
Since its official shift to the sports talk format in 2009, 106.7 The Fan had primarily competed with The Team 980 to try to win in the ratings. In November 2020, Audacy, officially agreed to acquire various stations across the United States owned by Urban One, including The Team 980, effectively ending that competition. Part of Kinard’s job is to oversee both sports talk stations, which now compete with ESPN 630 DC.
“We have some really talented staff,” Kinard said. “I’m not sure we’ve ever had more talent under one roof than we have now. Having two stations in my market allows me to groom new people and give people opportunities quicker than I could with just one station.”
Moreover, he helped launch 1580 The Bet, a radio station broadcasting in the growing sports gambling format in partnership with the BetQL Audio Network and CBS Sports Radio. Its creation coincided with a nationwide effort by Audacy to better utilize certain signals to their full potential, and with the proliferation and legalization of sports betting in select states across the country, many of them flipped to this format.
“I think it was important to have the BetQL Network represented in Washington at a high level because of the proximity to the MGM National Harbor, which is just kind of 15 minutes away from the radio station,” Kinard said. “[It is] on a signal that, in the past, had not been a big ratings play, so that was a great opportunity to just kind of own sports in Washington – to have 106.7 The Fan; The Team 980; and 1580 The Bet all under one umbrella.”
A compelling draw to sports radio is live game broadcasts, and as brand manager of Audacy DC, Kinard is responsible for maintaining 106.7 The Fan’s relationship with the Washington Capitals and Washington Nationals. When the teams are doing well, it usually results in better metrics for the station.
“There’s a huge correlation between winning and listenership and also advertiser interest,” Kinard said. “There’s a segment of the fanbase, I think, that thinks that local sports radio roots against the teams. It’s not that we root for the teams necessarily, but if you ask any host probably on any radio station in America whether it’s better for their individual show’s success and their overall station success if the teams are successful, I think everyone’s going to say it’s way better.”
Prior to the start of this NFL season, Audacy DC parted ways with the Washington Commanders due to a disagreement regarding “the value of the broadcasts.” The Team 980 was previously owned by the Washington Commanders franchise itself and had been the flagship station of the team for several years through its sale to Urban One in 2019. The Fan had not had the radio broadcast rights to the Commanders since 2006 before it was broadcasting in the sports talk format, hence why The Sports Junkies co-host Eric Bickel stated that the station had had no relationship with the team for two decades.
Since the Commanders officially entered into a new partnership with iHeartRadio, its flagship station has been BIG 100, which airs a classic rock format. Consequently, The Team 980 had the opportunity to change its on-air strategy, airing five hours of pregame coverage every week followed by extensive postgame coverage. During the games themselves, the station has broadcast Burgundy & Gold Gameday Live, a show that has had stellar listenership thus far.
“I think play-by-play rights are really important and do have a ton of value, but only if it’s done in a way where there’s partnership on both sides but also an understanding on both sides that the team has a job to do and the radio station has a job to do,” Kinard expressed. “Our focus is just to continue to provide great talk and coverage of the teams.”
As media continues to evolve with changes in technology and consumption habits, Kinard remains optimistic about the future because of the influx of new talent and the leadership at Audacy.
“We have just a wealth of talent and content, and I think that content will cut through no matter what’s going on with technology,” he said. “I think that we will continue to push to make sure that we are on the platforms that we need to be on and that we own that content and can monetize it for the future. I don’t know how anyone could compete with that, so I’m really excited about it.”
Kinard’s vertical movement in the industry might not have been possible without finding a mentor in Michael Hughes, the station’s general manager. Over the years working in the industry, Kinard grasped that managers are often not thinking about the needs and wants of individuals because of the myriad of responsibilities they are juggling related to the entity as a whole over any given period of time.
As a result, it is essential for subordinates to communicate with their superiors, as they are “at the mercy of the communication [they] receive,” according to Kinard.
“I had a conversation with him about… wanting to be a program director,” Kinard said of Hughes. “I think he took that seriously and took that to heart and he said, ‘Well, let me help you be prepared for that when the time might come.’ It just so happened that it came less than a year later.”
Derek Futterman is a features reporter for Barrett Sports Media. In addition, he serves as the production manager for the New York Islanders Radio Network and lead sports producer at NY2C. He has also worked on live game broadcasts for the Long Island Nets and New York Riptide. He previously interned for Paramount within Showtime Networks and wrote for The Long Island Herald. To get in touch, find him on Twitter @derekfutterman.
Pete Thamel Was ESPN’s College Football Missing Link
His no-frills approach is refreshing in a time when many “insiders” view being as famous as the athletes they cover as a quasi-goal for their futures.
For a network often accused of “running” college football, it always seemed odd to me that ESPN never had that true news-breaking reporter it had for other sports. That is, until it hired Pete Thamel in January of this year.
ESPN poured resources into “insiders” like Adam Schefter, Adrian Wojnarowski, and Jeff Passan while it poured rights fees into the SEC, Big 12, Pac-12, ACC, and the College Football Playoff, but from the outside, it looked as if the network just wasn’t interested in having that same type of reporting for college football, which is truly puzzling.
When the entire postseason of the country’s arguably second favorite sport is centered around what is best for your television channel, you would think supplementing it with high level, national reporting would be a priority.
Maybe the right deals never came to fruition or maybe the value just wasn’t seen by the network until Thamel became available, but his contributions to ESPN’s college football coverage have been immeasurable.
In a day and age where reporters break news on Twitter and get around to eventually writing a story for their outlet’s website, Thamel flexed his reporting chops in a major way on Sunday. While the rest of the college football world was still pondering whether Ohio State should consider firing Ryan Day, Thamel dropped a bomb on the sport’s landscape by revealing Wisconsin had hired Cincinnati head coach Luke Fickell to run their program. His initial tweet was accompanied by a link to ESPN’s website with further details about the move.
Pete Thamel was so convinced he was the first and potentially only person working on that ever-changing breaking news story, that he took the time to write the story, submit it through ESPN’s editorial staff, and then release the news before anyone else. In 2022, that’s the equivalent of mailing his story from side of the country to the other in order to break news. And yet, he was so far ahead of the game that he was able to take his time, gather his facts, and report an accurate, succinct story that would be of value to him and his network. What a novel concept.
One of Thamel’s best qualities as an “insider” is he — thus far — hasn’t been plagued by questions that have been a factor in the perception like his ESPN counterparts. Schefter, Wojnarowski, and Passan have each faced their own incidents during their time as the lead reporters for ESPN but Thamel, in my opinion, is unlikely to be pulled into those scenarios. It seems clear Thamel doesn’t release things for the benefit of anyone other than himself and the outlet he works for.
He doesn’t seem to be swayed by agents, athletic directors, coaches, boosters, or anyone else with skin in the game. His no-frills approach is refreshing in a time when many “insiders” view being as famous as the athletes they cover as a quasi-goal for their futures.
Last week, College GameDay host Rece Davis noted on the show’s podcast that Thamel brought “something to GameDay that GameDay’s desperately needed for years”, and he’s right. Not only did ESPN need a news breaker for it’s digital outlets, but it needed that presence on its pregame show.
And when you think about it, nearly ever other pregame show has that role filled. Schefter and Chris Mortensen hold that role for ESPN’s NFL coverage, FOX Sports has Jay Glazer in its NFL pregame show and Bruce Feldman for Big Noon Kickoff. It’s just an area ESPN lacked.
But they made a fantastic hire by bringing Thamel aboard, and his reporting will serve the worldwide leader well over the course of the following weeks as the college coaching carousel heats up.
Garrett Searight is the Editor of Barrett Sports Media and Barrett News Media. He previously was the Program Director and Afternoon Co-Host on 93.1 The Fan in Lima, OH. He is also a play-by-play announcer for TV and Radio broadcasts in Western Ohio.