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The Distraction Of Sports Talk Has Never Been More Important For Listeners

“Maybe, there has never been a more important time for us to stick to sports.”

Demetri Ravanos




I’m not a big “stick to sports” guy. I have written before that I don’t think people talk about sports in their real lives in a way that is laser-focused on the players and games. I think there is room in sports radio for irreverence and room for tough conversations.

There is room to be whatever you want, but let’s not lose sight of something. The world sucks right now. The Uvalde shooting is too much to bear for some of our listeners, and I will admit that I am right there among them. And the timing of when it happened – just over a week after the mass shooting in Buffalo – I have never quite felt as lost for hope for the world my kids are inheriting as I do right now.

The Uvalde story has been particularly hard to swallow. Another school shooting. Another debate about whether your right to own an AK47 is more important than every school not being a potential war zone. The revelation that the cops did nothing about the shooting for over an hour and arrested parents that couldn’t stand for that. And worst of all, because we live in a truly awful age, all of these grieving parents have to live knowing that there is a subsection of assholes that will make it their mission to shout from any rooftop they can find that this event didn’t really happen and their kid was never real to begin with.

Maybe, there has never been a more important time for us to stick to sports.

I don’t mean we eliminate fun and stick detailed breakdowns of who will be in each team’s third line in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. There will still be room for fun. But for a lot of our listeners, things feel heavy right now. The world makes no sense. They are rightfully looking for a distraction.

For a lot of people, sports will always be their distraction of choice. Right now though, it’s more than that. Sports and sports talk radio are safe havens.

Between 24-hour cable news and Twitter, we are force fed details about tragedies that we do not need or want. I do not mean this disrespectfully to survivors and those left behind in moments like this, but it is very possible for people at home to be overcome by grief and even trauma from the media overload.

I live in Raleigh, NC. I should not know the names Topps Supermarket and Robb Elementary, and yet both can make me feel sick now. I hear them and all I can think about his the horror the people inside those buildings must have felt. It is too much.

The world isn’t a newspaper with sections separated to keep every story in its proper silo. Tragedy and politics and society’s ills will cross over into sports. When they do, we have to decide how or if we are going to talk about them.

In a month like May 2022, it would be nice if sports radio existed in a vacuum. It just doesn’t. That doesn’t mean you have to be on top of every update. Maybe Gabe Kapler’s protest isn’t worth diving into right now. His cause is noble, but even if you agree with him whole-heartedly, it is okay to ask if there is a win in it for either you or the audience.

Are the Warriors’ core three too old to hang with the Celtics? How big of a bust are the Phillies? Just how soon are we going to get that sixteen-team SEC? Is Russell Wilson really rejuvenated, or have the Broncos just forgotten what competent quarterback play looks like?

Those conversations are pretty unimportant. At this moment in time though, that is exactly why they are so important for a lot of listeners.

In the past, I admit that I have been guilty of mixing sports and politics in shows I have hosted. I admit that I am attracted to sports stories that say something larger about us as a society. I can also acknowledge that I have grown and evolved and know better now how to read a proverbial room.

Big conversations, tough conversations don’t have to be third rails for us, but right now, that isn’t what listeners are looking for. In fact, it is the opposite of what so many of them need from us in a moment like this.

The term “distraction” gets thrown around in the entertainment world like it is an insult. Frankly, given every single story you see on a newscast these days, “distraction” may be the highest compliment some listeners can give you. There are plenty of them that need you more right now than they ever have before.

You don’t have to dumb your show down or be inauthentic. You just have to be able to provide them with what they need to get through another day on the darkest timeline.

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Being Wrong On-Air Isn’t A Bad Thing

…if you feel yourself getting uncomfortable over the fact that you were wrong, stop to realize that’s your pride talking. Your ego. And if people call you out for being wrong, it’s actually a good sign.




In the press conference after the Warriors won their fourth NBA title in eight years, Steph Curry referenced a very specific gesture from a very specific episode of Get Up that aired in August 2021.

“Clearly remember some experts and talking heads putting up the big zero,” Curry said, then holding up a hollowed fist to one eye, looking through it as if it were a telescope.

“How many championships we would have going forward because of everything we went through.”

Yep, Kendrick Perkins and Domonique Foxworth each predicted the Warriors wouldn’t win a single title over the course of the four-year extension Curry had just signed. The Warriors won the NBA title and guess what? Curry gets to gloat.

The funny part to me was the people who felt Perkins or Foxworth should be mad or embarrassed. Why? Because they were wrong?

That’s part of the game. If you’re a host or analyst who is never wrong in a prediction, it’s more likely that you’re excruciatingly boring than exceedingly smart. Being wrong is not necessarily fun, but it’s not a bad thing in this business.

You shouldn’t try to be wrong, but you shouldn’t be afraid of it, either. And if you are wrong, own it. Hold your L as I’ve heard the kids say. Don’t try to minimize it or explain it or try to point out how many other people are wrong, too. Do what Kendrick Perkins did on Get Up the day after the Warriors won the title.

“When they go on to win it, guess what?” He said, sitting next to Mike Greenberg. “You have to eat that.”

Do not do what Perkins did later that morning on First Take.

Perkins: “I come on here and it’s cool, right? Y’all can pull up Perk receipts and things to that nature. And then you give other people a pass like J-Will.”

Jason Williams: “I don’t get passes on this show.”

Perkins: “You had to, you had a receipt, too, because me and you both picked the Memphis Grizzlies to beat the Golden State Warriors, but I’m OK with that. I’m OK with that. Go ahead Stephen A. I know you’re about to have fun and do your thing. Go ahead.”

Stephen A. Smith: “First of all, I’m going to get serious for a second with the both of you, especially you, Perk, and I want to tell you something right now. Let me throw myself on Front Street, we can sit up there and make fun of me. You know how many damn Finals predictions I got wrong? I don’t give a damn. I mean, I got a whole bunch of them wrong. Ain’t no reason to come on the air and defend yourself. Perk, listen man. You were wrong. And we making fun, and Steph Curry making fun of you. You laugh at that my brother. He got you today. That’s all. He got you today.”

It’s absolutely great advice, and if you feel yourself getting uncomfortable over the fact that you were wrong, stop to realize that’s your pride talking. Your ego. And if people call you out for being wrong, it’s actually a good sign. It means they’re not just listening, but holding on to what you say. You matter. Don’t ruin that by getting defensive and testy.


I did a double-take when I saw Chris Russo’s list of the greatest QB-TE combinations ever on Wednesday and this was before I ever got to Tom Brady-to-Rob Gronkowski listed at No. 5. It was actually No. 4 that stopped me cold: Starr-Kramer.

My first thought: Jerry Kramer didn’t play tight end.

My second thought: I must be unaware of this really good tight end from the Lombardi-era Packers.

After further review, I don’t think that’s necessarily true, either. Ron Kramer did play for the Lombardi-era Packers, and he was a good player. He caught 14 scoring passes in a three-year stretch where he really mattered, but he failed to catch a single touchdown pass in six of the 10 NFL seasons he played. He was named first-team All-Pro once and finished his career with 229 receptions.

Now this is not the only reason that this is an absolutely terrible list. It is the most egregious, however. Bart Starr and Kramer are not among the 25 top QB-TE combinations in NFL history let alone the top five. And if you’re to believe Russo’s list, eighty percent of the top tandems played in the NFL in the 30-year window from 1958 to 1987 with only one tandem from the past 30 years meriting inclusion when this is the era in which tight end production has steadily climbed.

Then I found out that Russo is making $10,000 per appearance on “First Take.”

My first thought: You don’t have to pay that much to get a 60-something white guy to grossly exaggerate how great stuff used to be.

My second thought: That might be the best $10,000 ESPN has ever spent.

Once a week, Russo comes on and draws a reaction out of a younger demographic by playing a good-natured version of Dana Carvey’s Grumpy Old Man. Russo groans to JJ Redick about the lack of fundamental basketball skills in today’s game or he proclaims the majesty of a tight end-quarterback pairing that was among the top five in its decade, but doesn’t sniff the top five of all-time.

And guess what? It works. Redick rolls his eyes, asks Russo which game he’s watching, and on Wednesday he got me to spend a good 25 minutes looking up statistics for some Packers tight end I’d never heard of. Not satisfied with that, I then moved on to determine Russo’s biggest omission from the list, which I’ve concluded is Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates, who connected for 89 touchdowns over 15 seasons, which is only 73 more touchdowns than Kramer scored in his career. John Elway and Shannon Sharpe should be on there, too.

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Money Isn’t The Key Reason Why Sellers Sell Sports Radio

I started selling sports radio because I enjoyed working with clients who loved sports, our station, and wanted to reach fans with our commercials and promotions.

Jeff Caves



Radio Sales

A radio salesperson’s value being purely tied to money is overrated to me. Our managers all believe that our main motivation for selling radio is to make more money. They see no problem in asking us to sell more in various ways because it increases our paycheck. We are offered more money to sell digital, NTR, to sell another station in the cluster, weekend remotes, new direct business, or via the phone in 8 hours. 

But is that why you sell sports radio?

In 2022, the Top 10 highest paying sales jobs are all in technology. Not a media company among them. You could argue that if it were all about making money, we should quit and work in tech. Famous bank robber Willie Sutton was asked why he robbed twenty banks over twenty years. He reportedly said,” that’s where the money is”. Sutton is the classic example of a person who wanted what money could provide and was willing to do whatever it took to get it, BUT he also admitted he liked robbing banks and felt alive. So, Sutton didn’t do it just for the money.

A salesperson’s relationship with money and prestige is also at the center of the play Death of a Salesman. Willy Loman is an aging and failing salesman who decides he is worth more dead than alive and kills himself in an auto accident giving his family the death benefit from his life insurance policy. Loman wasn’t working for the money. He wanted the prestige of what money could buy for himself and his family. 

Recently, I met a woman who spent twelve years selling radio from 1999-2011. I asked her why she left her senior sales job. She said she didn’t like the changes in the industry. Consolidation was at its peak, and most salespeople were asked to do more with less help. She described her radio sales job as one with “golden handcuffs”. The station paid her too much money to quit even though she hated the job. She finally quit. The job wasn’t worth the money to her.

I started selling sports radio because I enjoyed working with clients who loved sports, our station, and wanted to reach fans with our commercials and promotions. I never wanted to sell anything else and specifically enjoyed selling programming centered around reaching fans of Boise State University football. That’s it. Very similar to what Mark Glynn and his KJR staff experience when selling Kraken hockey and Huskies football.  

I never thought selling sports radio was the best way to make money. I just enjoyed the way I could make money. I focused on the process and what I enjoyed about the position—the freedom to come and go and set my schedule for the most part. I concentrated on annual contracts and clients who wanted to run radio commercials over the air to get more traffic and build their brand.

Most of my clients were local direct and listened to the station. Some other sales initiatives had steep learning curves, were one-day events or contracted out shaky support staff. In other words, the money didn’t motivate me enough. How I spent my time was more important. 

So, if you are in management, maybe consider why your sales staff is working at the station. Because to me, they’d be robbing banks if it were all about making lots of money.  

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Media Noise: BSM Podcast Network Round Table



Demetri Ravanos welcomes the two newest members of the BSM Podcast Network to the show. Brady Farkas and Stephen Strom join for a roundtable discussion that includes the new media, Sage Steele and Roger Goodell telling Congress that Dave Portnoy isn’t banned from NFL events.

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