9:00 AM hits in the Eastern Time Zone, which means Dusty Dvoracek and Danny Kanell are wrapping up Dusty and Danny in the Morning on ESPNU Radio. For the past two hours, they’ve discussed everything in college football from Alabama’s close win over Texas to the current mess at Nebraska. But in a few short hours, the duo will be back on the air again.
This time, on a different channel and discussing different topics, such as the Broncos inexplicable loss to the Seahawks and if Dak Prescott’s injury spells doom for the Cowboys. It’s a full day of radio, but Dvoracek and Kanell wouldn’t have it any other way.
The reason for the new hectic schedule for Dvoracek and Kanell is that they’re the newest addition to Mad Dog Radio on SiriusXM channel 82. Dog Days with Dusty and Danny now airs in the 12 PM to 3 PM EST slot, which was recently open due to Pat McAfee leaving Mad Dog Radio.
“Danny and I started working together last year in August on ESPNU doing Dusty and Danny in the Morning,” said Dvoracek. “It’s been great, they’ve been very happy and Danny had previously been on Mad Dog. He had a show before he came to ESPNU. He was doing some fill-in shows and he said, would you want to do it with me? I said, absolutely. I’d love to be on Mad Dog. We started filling in for Russo when Doggie was out and the bosses all liked what they heard and we kept getting more opportunities.
“When this spot came open, Steve Cohen came to me and asked if I would be interested. I talked to Danny about it and we were absolutely interested. My previous job at The Sports Animal was mid-day and I loved that time slot. As much as I like college sports, I also love pro sports. Getting to branch back into that and hitting on the NFL, NBA, just all sports, in general, is unbelievably appealing.”
Dvoracek and Kanell will work extremely well in their new time slot, where NFL will likely be the primary focus. Why? They know just as much about the NFL as they do college football, especially given both of their backgrounds in the professional football ranks. There’s credibility that comes with a new show when both hosts can present a resume that includes multiple years in the NFL.
Along with his radio duties, Dvoracek also works as an analyst for ESPN’s college football coverage, which means you’ll see him on television every Saturday. Adding a three-hour mid-day show was going to create an even more hectic schedule, but the opportunity to host on Mad Dog Radio was too good to pass up.
“ESPNU is almost strictly college sports,” said Dvoracek. “We will definitely dabble in college football on Mad Dog, there’s a lot of college football fans and people want to hear us talk about it, especially if they don’t flip over in the mornings. It’s an opportunity for us to branch out. But it’s definitely more professional sports-centric and the NFL is king, which is not a bad thing at all.”
Why has the dynamic of Dvoracek and Kanell worked so well? Both have big-time college football backgrounds, with Dvoracek playing at Oklahoma and Kanell at Florida State, but the obvious answer is the chemistry the two have built over the air in just one year. What’s impressive about that is they’ve been able to form that bond with one another while not doing the show in the same studio. But it’s their chemistry and info on the show that keeps garnering more opportunities in radio.
“He’s a quarterback and I’m a defensive lineman,” laughed Dvoracek. “It’s a lot of fun to listen to our differing opinions and our different backgrounds. We agree on a lot, we disagree on a lot, but I think the thing I like the most is the fact we both think it’s about entertainment and having fun. We try to do that each day.”
Dvoracek did local radio in Oklahoma for close to 10 years, most recently at The Sports Animal in Oklahoma City. The past year doing a national show has been a new radio chapter for Dvoracek, but one that he’s enjoying.
“I can’t say I enjoy it better, I just think it’s different,” Dvoracek said, regarding the difference between local and national radio. “I did local radio for close to 10 years. I don’t know if burned out is the right thing, but you’re so often just so focused on everything going on in your own backyard. Not that it’s a bad thing, but I just wanted to branch out and do more. Getting to do games for ESPN, and call football games all across the country, I just wanted to be more than just an Oklahoma sports broadcaster.
“Sometimes you just want to grow, adapt and change. Especially with being with SiriusXM, it’s a great company. Management has been awesome to me. I worked there for a couple of years as a fill-in while doing local radio and when the opportunity presented itself to do a full-time show I really wanted to jump at that chance.”
Most of Dvoracek’s time right now is spent with a headset on, talking sports on the radio, another headset on analyzing a game on TV, or knee-deep in a film review of another game from the previous weekend. Needless to say, his family life is pretty sparse during this time of the year. Finding a work-home life balance can be difficult when you host two radio shows and call games on Saturdays, but it’s an understood labor of love.
“My balance is head down and work all the time,” said Dvoracek. “They have a lot of condensed games now, to where you can see every play in about 20 to 25 minutes. Over the weekend I went back and watched the condensed version of Texas and Alabama. I may not hear all the commentary, but I don’t need all the commentary. All I need to see is the action, the play and what’s going on. I can come up with my own analysis. I appreciate Joel Klatt and Gus Johnson very much, but I don’t need them to recognize what I see.
“The other thing that’s great about calling college football games for ESPN, is that I have access to everyone’s film and everyone’s tape. I can go back and watch whatever I want. I can’t tell you I go back and watch every single minute of every single game, but nobody does. I try to do my best to be as buttoned up and well-versed in the biggest games. My family life is pretty sparse in the fall, but that’s just the nature of the business.”
From a radio perspective, calling games on TV for ESPN has its perks for Dvoracek. The biggest perk is probably his access to coaches that most don’t have. While in a production meeting for a TV broadcast, he has the opportunity to ask questions and form a relationship with coaches that don’t come to most media members. Granted, in no way does he approach production meetings as a tool to help his radio show, but sometimes, good enough to share on the air can come from one.
“Can you use it to your advantage? Absolutely,” said Dvoracek. “Now, are there some things said in those conversations not for air? Yes. As a professional, you have to pick and choose what you’re going to use and what you’re going to say. It’s no different than how we would handle it on a TV broadcast. I think anytime you have access and the ability to speak and develop relationships with these coaches, you can clearly use it to your advantage.”
Tyler McComas is a columnist for BSM and a sports radio talk show host in Norman, OK where he hosts afternoon drive for SportsTalk 1400. You can find him on Twitter @Tyler_McComas or you can email him at TylerMcComas08@yahoo.com.
The Future Is Now, Embrace Amazon Prime Video, AppleTV+
As annoying as streaming sports is and as much as I haven’t fully adapted to the habit yet, Amazon and Apple have done a magnificent job of trying to make the process as easy and simplified as possible.
This week has been a reckoning for sports and its streaming future on Amazon Prime Video, AppleTV+, ESPN+, and more.
Amazon announced that Thursday Night Football, which averaged 13 million viewers, generated the highest number of U.S. sign ups over a three hour period in the app’s history. More people in the United States subscribed to Prime during the September 15th broadcast than they did during Black Friday, Prime Day, and Cyber Monday. It was also “the most watched night of primetime in Prime Video’s history,” according to Amazon executive Jay Marine. The NFL and sports in general have the power to move mountains even for some of the nation’s biggest and most successful brands.
This leads us to the conversation happening surrounding Aaron Judge’s chase for history. Judge has been in pursuit of former major leaguer Roger Maris’ record for the most home runs hit during one season in American League history.
The sports world has turned its attention to the Yankees causing national rights holders such as ESPN, Fox, and TBS to pick up extra games in hopes that they capture the moment history is made. Apple TV+ also happened to have a Yankees game scheduled for Friday night against the Red Sox right in the middle of this chase for glory.
Baseball fans have been wildin’ out at the prospects of missing the grand moment when Judge passes Maris or even the moments afterwards as Judge chases home run number 70 and tries to truly create monumental history of his own. The New York Post’s Andrew Marchand has even reported there were talks between YES, MLB, and Apple to bring Michael Kay into Apple’s broadcast to call the game, allow YES Network to air its own production of the game, or allow YES Network to simulcast Apple TV+’s broadcast. In my opinion, all of this hysteria is extremely bogus.
As annoying as streaming sports is and as much as I haven’t fully adapted to the habit yet, Amazon and Apple have done a magnificent job of trying to make the process as easy and simplified as possible. Amazon brought in NBC to help with production of TNF and if you watch the flow of the broadcast, the graphics of the broadcast, NBC personalities like Michael Smith, Al Michaels, and Terry McAuliffe make appearances on the telecast – it is very clear that the network’s imprint is all over the show.
NBC’s experience in conducting the broadcast has made the viewing experience much more seamless. Apple has also used MLB Network and its personalities for assistance in ensuring there’s no major difference between what you see on air vs. what you’re streaming.
Amazon and Apple have also decided to not hide their games behind a paywall. Since the beginning of the season, all of Apple’s games have been available free of charge. No subscription has ever been required. As long as you have an Apple device and can download Apple TV+, you can watch their MLB package this season.
Guess what? Friday’s game against the Red Sox is also available for free on your iPhone, your laptop, or your TV simply by downloading the AppleTV app. Amazon will also simulcast all Thursday Night Football games on Twitch for free. It may be a little harder or confusing to find the free options, but they are out there and they are legal and, once again, they are free.
Apple has invested $85 million into baseball, money that will go towards your team becoming better hypothetically. They’ve invested money towards creating a new kind of streaming experience. Why in the hell would they offer YES Network this game for free? There’s no better way for them to drive subscriptions to their product than by offering fans a chance at watching history on their platform.
A moment like this are the main reason Apple paid for rights in the first place. When Apple sees what the NFL has done for Amazon in just one week and coincidentally has the ability to broadcast one of the biggest moments in baseball history – it would be a terrible business decision to let viewers watch it outside of the Apple ecosystem and lose the ability to gain new fans.
It’s time for sports fans to grow up and face reality. Streaming is here to stay.
MLB Network is another option
If you don’t feel like going through the hassle of watching the Yankees take on the Red Sox for free on Apple TV+, MLB Network will also air all of Judge’s at bats live as they are happening. In case the moment doesn’t happen on Apple TV+ on Friday night, Judge’s next games will air in full on MLB Network (Saturday), ESPN (Sunday), MLB Network again (Monday), TBS (Tuesday) and MLB Network for a third time on Wednesday. All of MLB Network’s games will be simulcast of YES Network’s local New York broadcast. It wouldn’t shock me to see Fox pick up another game next Thursday if the pursuit still maintains national interest.
- One of the weirdest things about the experience of streaming sports is that you lose the desire to channel surf. Is that a good thing or bad thing? Brandon Ross of LightShed Ventures wonders if the difficulty that comes with going from app to app will help Amazon keep viewers on TNF the entire time no matter what the score of the game is. If it does, Amazon needs to work on developing programming to surround the games or start replaying the games, pre and post shows so that when you fall asleep and wake up you’re still on the same stream on Prime Video or so that coming to Prime Video for sports becomes just as much of a habit for fans as tuning in to ESPN is.
- CNN has announced the launch of a new morning show with Don Lemon, Poppy Harlow and Kaitlin Collins. Variety reports, “Two people familiar with plans for the show say it is likely to use big Warner Bros. properties — a visit from the cast of HBO’s Succession or sports analysis from TNT’s NBA crew — to lure eyeballs.” It’ll be interesting to see if Turner Sports becomes a cornerstone of this broadcast. Will the NBA start doing schedule releases during the show? Will a big Taylor Rooks interview debut on this show before it appears on B/R? Will the Stanley Cup or Final Four MVP do an interview on CNN’s show the morning after winning the title? Does the show do remote broadcasts from Turner’s biggest sports events throughout the year?
- The Clippers are back on over the air television. They announced a deal with Nexstar to broadcast games on KTLA and other Nexstar owned affiliates in California. The team hasn’t reached a deal to air games on Bally Sports SoCal or Bally Sports Plus for the upcoming season. Could the Clippers pursue a solo route and start their own OTT service in time for the season? Are they talking to Apple, Amazon, or ESPN about a local streaming deal? Is Spectrum a possible destination? I think these are all possibilities but its likely that the Clippers end up back on Bally Sports since its the status quo. I just find it interesting that it has taken so long to solidify an agreement and that it wasn’t announced in conjunction with the KTLA deal. The Clippers are finally healthy this season, moving into a new arena soon, have the technology via Second Spectrum to produce immersive game casts. Maybe something is brewing?
- ESPN’s Monday Night Football double box was a great concept. The execution sucked. Kudos to ESPN for adjusting on the fly once complaints began to lodge across social media. I think the double box works as a separate feed. ESPN2 should’ve been the home to the double box. SVP and Stanford Steve could’ve held a watch party from ESPN’s DC studio with special guests. The double box watch party on ESPN2 could’ve been interrupted whenever SVP was giving an update on games for ESPN and ABC. It would give ESPN2 a bit of a behind the scenes look at how the magic happens similarly to what MLB Tonight did last week. Credit to ESPN and the NFL for experimenting and continuing to try and give fans unique experiences.
Jessie Karangu is a columnist for BSM and graduate of the University of Maryland with a bachelor’s degree in journalism. He was born and raised in Baltimore, Maryland but comes from Kenyan roots. Jessie has had a passion for sports media and the world of television since he was a child. His career has included stints with USA Today, Tegna, Sinclair Broadcast Group and Sightline Media. He can be found on Twitter @JMKTVShow.
ESPN Shows Foresight With Monday Night Football Doubleheader Timing
ESPN is obviously testing something, and it’s worth poking around at why the network wouldn’t follow the schedule it has used for the last 16 years, scheduling kickoffs at 7 and then 10 on their primary channel.
The Monday Night Football doubleheader was a little bit different this time around for ESPN.
First, it came in Week 2 instead of Week 1. And then, the games were staggered 75 minutes apart on two different channels, the Titans and Bills beginning on ESPN at 7:15 PM ET and the Vikings at the Eagles starting at 8:30 PM on ABC and ESPN+. This was a departure from the usual schedule in which the games kicked off at 7:00 PM ET and then 10:00 PM ET with the latter game on the West Coast.
ESPN is obviously testing something, and it’s worth poking around at why the network wouldn’t follow the schedule it has used for the last 16 years, scheduling kickoffs at 7:00 PM and then 10:00 PM ET on their primary channel. That’s the typical approach, right? The NFL is the most valuable offering in all of sports and ESPN would have at least six consecutive hours of live programming without any other game to switch to.
Instead, they staggered the starts so the second game kicked off just before the first game reached halftime. They placed the games on two different channels, which risked cannibalizing their audience. Why? Well, it’s the same reason that ESPN was so excited about the last year’s Manningcast that it’s bringing it back for 10 weeks this season. ESPN is not just recognizing the reality of how their customers behave, but they’re embracing it.
Instead of hoping with everything they have that the customer stays in one place for the duration of the game, they’re recognizing the reality that they will leave and providing another product within their portfolio to be a destination when they do.
It’s the kind of experiment everyone in broadcasting should be investigating because, for all the talk about meeting the customer where they are, we still tend to be a little bit stubborn about adapting to what they do.
Customers have more choices than ever when it comes to media consumption. First, cable networks softened the distribution advantages of broadcast networks, and now digital offerings have eroded the distribution advantages of cable networks. It’s not quite a free-for-all, but the battle for viewership is more intense, more wide open than ever because that viewer has so many options of not just when and where but how they will consume media.
Programmers have a choice in how to react to this. On the one hand, they can hold on tighter to the existing model and try to squeeze as much out of it as they can. If ESPN was thinking this way it would stack those two Monday night games one after the other just like it always has and hope like hell for a couple of close games to juice the ratings. Why would you make it impossible for your customer to watch both of these products you’ve paid so much to televise?
I’ve heard radio programmers and hosts recite take this same approach for more than 10 years now when it comes to making shows available on-demand. Why would you give your customers the option of consuming the product in a way that’s not as remunerative or in a way that is not measured?
That thinking is outdated and it is dangerous from an economic perspective because it means you’re trying to make the customer behave in your best interest by restricting their choices. And maybe that will work. Maybe they like that program enough that they’ll consume it in the way you’d prefer or maybe they decide that’s inconvenient or annoying or they decide to try something else and now this customer who would have listened to your product in an on-demand format is choosing to listen to someone else’s product entirely.
After all, you’re the only one that is restricting that customer’s choices because you’re the only one with a desire to keep your customer where he is. Everyone else is more than happy to give your customer something else.
There’s a danger in holding on too tightly to the existing model because the tighter you squeeze, the more customers will slip through your fingers, and if you need a physical demonstration to complete this metaphor go grab a handful of sand and squeeze it hard.
Your business model is only as good as its ability to predict the behavior of your customers, and as soon as it stops doing that, you need to adjust that business model. Don’t just recognize the reality that customers today will exercise the freedom that all these media choices provide, embrace it.
Offer more products. Experiment with more ways to deliver those products. The more you attempt to dictate the terms of your customer’s engagement with your product, the more customers you’ll lose, and by accepting this you’ll open yourself to the reality that if your customer is going to leave your main offering, it’s better to have them hopping to another one of your products as opposed to leaving your network entirely.
Think in terms of depth of engagement, and breadth of experience. That’s clearly what ESPN is doing because conventional thinking would see the Manningcast as a program that competes with the main Monday Night Football broadcast, that cannibalizes it. ESPN sees it as a complimentary experience. An addition to the main broadcast, but it also has the benefit that if the customer feels compelled to jump away from the main broadcast – for whatever reason – it has another ESPN offering that they may land on.
I’ll be watching to see what ESPN decides going forward. The network will have three Monday Night Football doubleheaders beginning next year, and the game times have not been set. Will they line them up back-to-back as they had up until this year? If they do it will be a vote of confidence that its traditional programming approach that evening is still viable. But if they overlap those games going forward, it’s another sign that less is not more when it comes to giving your customers a choice in products.
Danny O’Neil is a sports media columnist for BSM. He has previously hosted morning and afternoon drive for 710 ESPN Seattle, and served as a reporter for the Seattle Times. He can be reached on Twitter @DannyOneil or by email at Danny@DannyOneil.com.
Media Noise: Sunday Ticket Has Problems, Marcellus Wiley Does Not
On this episode of Media Noise, Demetri is joined by Brian Noe to talk about the wild year FS1’s Marcellus Wiley has had and by Garrett Searight to discuss the tumultuous present and bright future of NFL Sunday Ticket.
Demetri Ravanos is the Assistant Content Director for Barrett Sports Media. He hosts the Chewing Clock and Media Noise podcasts. He occasionally fills in on stations across the Carolinas. Previous stops include WAVH and WZEW in Mobile, AL, WBPT in Birmingham, AL and WBBB, WPTK and WDNC in Raleigh, NC. You can find him on Twitter @DemetriRavanos and reach him by email at DemetriTheGreek@gmail.com.