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Jonathan Zaslow Is Starting Over With Zaslow Show 2.0

“I told my wife later that day, it was always going to end like this. That’s the way it goes when you’re in radio, right? I shouldn’t have lasted 18 years, nobody lasts 18 years.”

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It’s radio. This is a common expression used to describe the uncertainty and unpredictable nature of the radio industry. It’s a phrase used to describe a radio gig that suddenly ends. Unfortunately, it occurs far too often in this business. It happened in late September for Jonathan Zaslow. The Miami sports radio host found out that he was being let go after 18 years and that 790 The Ticket was switching to a Spanish-language talk station.

As you can imagine, the news wasn’t awesome for Zaslow that day. But the guy has rebounded big time. He’s launched the Zaslow Show 2.0 podcast and a YouTube channel while oozing positivity. His upbeat approach is impressive. At first during our chat, I sounded like, “Hey man, I’m sorry your dog died.” That sympathy was met with Tony Robbins-like, motivational speaker excitement from Zaslow. It was pretty cool to hear.

Zaslow talks about his run at the Ticket coming to an end and the exciting new chapter in his career. We also chat about Eddie Vedder, watching the Miami Heat as a fan, and when a host is the most popular. Enjoy!

Brian Noe: Were you caught off guard by getting let go?

Jonathan Zaslow: Yeah, totally off guard. I was actually at QAM for the past year, and the previous 17 years before that I was at 790 The Ticket. Last original employee of 790 The Ticket; I have that moniker. Yeah, I was very surprised about all of it. I was told right after a show that essentially this is my last day, so I was very surprised. Obviously, everyone found out a few days later when 790 The Ticket changed format. I guess I got stuck in the middle of that because you can only have so many shows throughout the day.

So yeah, I was totally caught off guard. I did an Instagram Live a few days later. I told everybody — and I mean this — I’m not mad. I know most of the time when someone gets laid off you’re really mad and maybe even someone in my situation — I was there 18 years, it was the first and only job I’ve ever had out of college.

With that said, everyone hears 18 years; 18 years in radio, that doesn’t even make sense. I’m really grateful. I was obviously disappointed but not mad. I was treated really well when I was there, the whole 18 years. There were several different ownerships throughout that span; I always felt I was treated really well.

I told my wife later that day, it was always going to end like this. That’s the way it goes when you’re in radio, right? I shouldn’t have lasted 18 years, nobody lasts 18 years. It was always going to end like this. It was just a matter of when. I also told her that this is the path I chose. I chose radio. I chose being in this business and this is what happens sometimes, so, not mad. Yes, I was caught off guard. Obviously, disappointed at the time, but I got nothing bad to say.

BN: You have the right attitude. You could easily have some bad feelings, but I don’t think that does you any good if you did.

JZ: People were angry. I get the tweets and even text messages. People I know or what have you. I told everyone I said listen, I’m flattered that you’re mad, but if you do have all that angry energy, then all you have to do is you take that energy and you apply it to the next thing that I’m doing.

Now at this point, everybody knows I got Zaslow Show 2.0. It’s available everywhere you get your podcasts. I didn’t necessarily know that at the time when I said that to people, but I was like you just take all that angry and disappointed energy that you have, and if you really feel that way, you’re just going to apply it to the next thing that I do, and everyone’s going to be happy.

BN: [Quarterback] Ryan Tannehill of all people comes to mind because when the Titans lost to the Bengals in the playoffs, he said it put him in a dark place. After 18 years for you, it’s sort of like a big playoff loss to get let go. How long did it take you to get over it, where you’re focused on the next thing instead of looking backwards?

JZ: Well, the first thing that you think about in my position is I got a wife and two kids. Like I said, 18 years, and I’ve never had to see what’s next. So I got a wife and two kids, and the first thing I’m thinking about is, shit, I got real responsibilities. That was the part where you’re trying to figure out, all right, what am I going to do next? I got to do something, I’ve got real responsibilities here, I’ve got people counting on me.

I got a lot of phone calls that day. I talked for a long time. Dan Le Batard, Jorge Sedano, Evan Cohen, Joy Taylor, Amber Wilson, my former co-hosts, those two. We really talked extensively because I’m tight with all those people. The information they were giving me; I kind of was able to formulate a plan by talking to all these people. They really made me feel good.

You know what I kind of felt like? You’ve seen the movie Private Parts, Howard Stern. I’m a big Howard Stern fan. I kind of felt like when Howard got fired from WNBC, and he’s all upset, and his agent comes in his office with a bottle of champagne. He goes, are you crazy? This is the greatest thing that could’ve happened. We’re celebrating. This is the best day of your career.

Now, I didn’t necessarily feel it was the best day of my career because it was a really shitty feeling that day, but I felt like after talking to all those people, they really made me feel like, yeah, everything’s going to wind up being all right for you.

BN: What were some of the things that Le Batard, Joy, Amber or anybody else, told you that helped you feel positive about the whole thing?

JZ: I think it was the fact that because I’ve been doing this so long, they really let me know that look, a lot of people out there know who you are at this point. There’s going to be other opportunities out there. They’re going to be opportunities that you never knew were opportunities. You’re feeling shitty, obviously, right when you get the news, but they really let me feel that I’ve been doing this long enough that everything’s going to wind up being okay. I think that was really it, that they were confident in my abilities.

Every version of the Zaslow Show has had success. I was doing Zaslow & Joy, then Zaslow & Romberg, then Zaslow, Romberg & Amber, then Zaslow & Amber. And now for the last year, just Zaslow Show. Every version has had at least some kind of success and the constant was me. The point being, which they were helping explain to me was, whatever you wind up doing next, it’s going to be the same thing.

Granted, people right now aren’t hearing me live on terrestrial radio. But so many of those people were hitting the subscribe button on the Zaslow Show podcast, just under the Audacy banner. What’s stopping them from doing the same thing right now? It’s just under the Zaslow Show 2.0 banner. It’s available in the exact same place they were getting it before be it iTunes, or Spotify, or iHeart, or Google, wherever. Joy and Amber especially, really led me to believe, whatever you do, the audience, they’re going to follow you. That made me feel good.

BN: Tell me about the new show, how many times a week are you doing it? What are some of the things that are different than what you were doing before?

JZ: I’m trying to keep it as similar as possible. I’m trying to bring over the same type of bits that I had before. I do big deal, not a big deal. I’m still doing that here every day. It’s how I’m closing out Zaslow Show 2.0. On Friday, I’m going to do big game, not a big game. Eventually get back into big movie, not a big movie. I’m trying to incorporate all my old bits still into the show now, but it’s the same show otherwise.

We’re focusing on Miami sports, but obviously hitting on all the major topics. We’re still talking about music. I love movies. I’m going to mix in pro wrestling. Some people were asking me earlier today, hey, are you going to start having some guests on? It’s obviously not as necessary, at least right now to have guests because I’m doing Monday through Friday, I’m pumping out an hour a day.

I don’t need guests in an hour. I could roll out of bed and do an hour. I’m of the understanding when it comes to podcast listening, I think people are consuming it in smaller doses. I think that seems like a good length for right now. We’ll eventually start doing interviews and uploading that onto the YouTube page.

Also I debuted last Saturday a wrestling show under the Zaslow Show 2.0 banner. The show is called It’s Still Real To Me. I’m really excited about that. I’ve been wanting to do a pro wrestling show for years now. It’s a passion of mine since I was a little boy. Not only is it such a huge industry, but it’s also turned into something that I’m not embarrassed anymore to admit that I love. There’s a place for it now for me to do a show. I’m really excited about that.

BN: What advice would you give to someone who’s currently on terrestrial radio? Like you said, you felt like you didn’t need to research this stuff because you had your job. Do you look at it differently now?

JZ: The one thing I would say is I wish that I was doing some of this extra stuff while I was still on terrestrial radio. I should have been doing all the extra stuff on Instagram, Twitter. I should’ve had a YouTube page years ago. I was so behind the eight ball in that regard. I don’t know, maybe I got complacent. I don’t know what it is, but I should have had a YouTube channel years ago and been uploading content where instead of starting it last week from scratch, I should have already been knee-deep into all of that. And I just wasn’t.

My advice would be no matter how comfortable you feel, no matter how entrenched you are in the local scene in your market, you got to be doing all of the extra stuff. There’s definitely no harm. Once you get the hang of it, it’s not as complicated as maybe I thought two months ago before I’d done any of that kind of stuff. I would say hey, you’re in a good spot on terrestrial radio? You should still be doing all the other extra stuff. It only helps your brand.

BN: What would you say to someone who pushes back and says, look man, I’m making good money. I do my three or four hour show right now. I don’t need to do all of this extra stuff.

JZ: That was me. I would say hey, listen, no matter how good a standing you’re in, look, my bosses always liked me. I had great relationships with everyone that I worked for. I had a show that was popular, and it could still end the way that it did for me. Things happen. It’s a business. I would say, just make sure you’re doing everything you can.

BN: What are your plans to grow the podcast?

JZ: I’m really grateful that when I announced Zaslow Show 2.0 is coming, I got a phone call immediately for a title sponsor. It’s a local law firm down here Anidjar & Levine. They’re accident attorneys. They wanted on board right away. I was so grateful and just super humbled that they wanted on board. I want you on board is what I told them. I was so grateful for that. I really think that gave me a boost of confidence too.

I got some time here to get my footing and establish the audience and all of that. I’m lucky that I have a built-in listenership. I just need to make them aware of what’s going on right now. But I think that really gave me a boost of confidence that there are people who are going to want to get behind the show. That’s the idea that I have the freedom here to do the show the way that I want, and hopefully I’ll have people supporting me.

BN: You hosted Miami Heat pregame, halftime and postgame shows for 12 years. What’s it like to watch the Heat now that things have changed?

JZ: I went to a game for the first time as a fan in 12 years the other week. I saw the Heat play the Raptors. The Heat won. I remember the last time I was in the stands as a fan was the Heat’s home opener in 2010. It was the first year that LeBron was here. That’s the last game I went to as a fan. They beat the Magic that night. I used to be a season ticket holder; it was a 12-year span between going to games as a fan when I went last week. So that was weird.

I liked being able to watch the game with a drink in my hand. I enjoy that. I hadn’t done that in forever. That was fun. I liked being able to stand up and cheer and be into the game. Most importantly, believe it or not, it was the first time I’d ever been to a Heat game with my son.

That’s crazy. That’s wild. Matter of fact, the first game I’d ever watched with any of my sons was the bubble during COVID. We were broadcasting from home that time. That was the first time I ever even watched a game with my son.

But that game last week, it was the first time I’d ever been to a Heat game with my son; it was always my wife taking my two boys. I was able to take my son and his friends to the game. That was a really cool experience. I’m looking forward to doing that more.

BN: What is it about you just being so positive? I haven’t gotten one little tinge of I’m bent about this. This sucks. Why me? None of that. Why is it so positive for you throughout this whole thing?

JZ: I think I feel good about the reaction. When Amber Wilson started doing the show with me, she replaced Joy Taylor. Some listeners were like, you’re not as good as Joy, I miss Joy, when’s Joy coming back, that kind of deal. I would tell Amber, I said listen, you’re never as popular as you are when you leave. Like, you are never as popular. Look, Joy is fantastic, all right, I love that girl. But she was never more popular on my show than when she left. That’s when everyone gives you your flowers.

I got a little bit of that. [Laughs] It was the first time that I left, so I got a little bit of that where I was getting my flowers and everyone was making me feel good. I had never been more loved than now that I’m no longer around. I got a little bit of that and it made me feel good. I think it reinforced that I think I could do something on my own. I think there’s something there. I have a built-in audience.

Overall, people know who I am down here when it comes to sports talk. I grew up in South Florida listening to sports talk here, specifically 560 WQAM. The legends: Hank Goldberg who recently passed away, Jim Mandich who passed away several years ago. I grew up listening to these guys. Then eventually, I got to be one of those voices here in South Florida. I got to do that for a really long time. That part of my life is not going to go away. I’m really fortunate. I’m really grateful for all that.

BN: For the future, let’s say over the next five years, what would you ideally like to accomplish?

JZ: I’d like Zaslow Show 2.0 to be successful and I’d like to do more play-by-play. I was able to dip my toes into the water the last couple seasons filling in for Mike Inglis on occasion and filling in for Jason Jackson on occasion with the Heat. I did some play-by-play; I have a lot of room to grow, obviously, but I did it at the highest level in the NBA. I’d like to be able to do more of that. I’d like some opportunities there. We’ll see where that goes.

Doing shows nationally, I think there could be a place for me there. Maybe it’s NBA-based because that’s my bread and butter. Or maybe it’s just doing some version of the Zaslow Show. Who knows, maybe it’s getting back together with one of my former partners too, and doing something in that vein. I’d be open to that as well.

There’s a feeling also of excitement. I like the idea of something new. I’d like it a lot more to know that okay, there’s going to be something new and everything’s going to work out. I’d like to be able to add in the last part. I can’t add in the last part yet, but I like the idea of something new. There’s an exciting element to that.

BN: If you could pick any guests to be your first guest — wrestling, sports, anybody — who would be the person?

JZ: I do kind of feel like, all right, it can’t just be someone random. I’ve never talked to him before. I’m obviously a massive fan. I don’t know how this would happen. I got close one time years ago, it just didn’t work out. Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam. That’s like the white whale. I’m a massive Pearl Jam fan. Everybody knows that.

I saw them at the Garden two months ago. We flew up, me and my son, it was my 25th time seeing them; not that it’s a competition. But I would love to have Eddie Vedder. If Eddie Vedder were the first guest, if he’s out there, if he reads Barrett Sports Media, I would love to have you on. That’d be great.

BN: [Laughs] It’d be hilarious if that’s what clinched it. Eddie Vedder is just a huge reader of Barrett Sports Media.

JZ: That’s right. I know he’s a huge basketball fan. He’s a huge baseball fan. He loves the Chicago Cubs, Chicago Bulls. Maybe he also likes sports media, you know?

BN: [Laughs] For sure. Well, I’m happy for you, man. I’m excited for this new thing you got going on.

JZ: Thanks. Yeah, it’s fun so far. We’re only the first week in, but it’s fun. I feel a sense of accomplishment after it all uploads and everything. I did that. I edited it. I produced that. I added the music. I did that. I do feel a sense of accomplishment where my wife can say what did you do today? And it wasn’t just, caught up on my shows. I watched a little bit of Monday Night Raw. No, now I can actually say I accomplished something and it’s out there in the world for everyone to hear.

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Colorado Hiring Deion Sanders Will Be Constant Gift for College Football Media

“If Coach Prime achieves the same sort of success that he did with the Tigers, he will be far more than a curiosity. Sanders will be a disruptor.”

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Deion Sanders quickly made it clear why the University of Colorado chose him to be its next head football coach.

Coming off a weekend in which the four College Football Playoff teams were announced and all of the other bowl-eligible teams accepted their invitations, Colorado — which went 1-11 this past season — made news for hiring Sanders, the former NFL star who was phenomenally successful at Jackson State.

The media that covers college football and sports as a whole should be thrilled that the Buffaloes program decided to take a big leap for attention and notoriety. Sanders is a bold, risky hire. But he’s also been successful in virtually every venture he’s taken. “Primetime” had a Hall of Fame NFL career and also played Major League Baseball. And he’s a master at drawing attention to himself.

During his first meeting with his new team, Sanders made sure to mention that he has Louis Vuitton luggage to make the point that some of his Jackson State players are coming with him to Boulder — including his son, quarterback Shadeur Sanders. Nick Saban and Kirby Smart probably don’t cite luxury fashion when explaining to their players that they’ll have to compete for starting positions.

Coach Prime will not be boring to cover. (That self-appointed “Coach Prime” title, which was on his name plate at his introductory press conference, is a big clue there.) He never has been. This is a man who said during the 1989 NFL Draft, after being selected No. 5 overall by the Atlanta Falcons, that if the Detroit Lions had selected him at No. 3, he “would’ve asked for so much money, they’d have had to put me on layaway.”

Even if he doesn’t win as much as Colorado hopes, Sanders will pursue top talent — players who want to perform on a larger stage than the FCS-level Jackson State allows — and impact athletes will be attracted to him. He got the No. 1 recruit in the nation, cornerback and wide receiver Travis Hunter, to play for him. (Hunter is following his coach to Boulder.) Now that Sanders is at an FBS school in a Power 5 conference, more stars will surely come.

But if Coach Prime achieves the same sort of success that he did with the Tigers — going 27-5 in three seasons, including a 12-0 campaign in 2022 — he will be far more than a curiosity. Sanders will be a disruptor. And he’ll get the attention that such figures typically draw from media and fans. According to the Denver Post‘s Sean Keeler, at least 400 people attended what felt more like a celebration than a press conference.

Coach Prime wasn’t going to just win the press conference, which is what any school and fanbase want when a new coach is introduced.

If Colorado wanted someone to sit at a podium, and give platitudes like “We want to win the Pac-12 and get to the College Football Playoff,” “We’re going to build a program with young men you’ll be proud of,” or “It’s time to restore Colorado to the football glory we remember,” Sanders isn’t the guy for that.

“Do I look like a man that worries about anything? Did you see the way I walked in here? Did you see the swagger that was with me?” Sanders said during his introductory presser. “Worry? Baby, I am too blessed to be stressed. I have never been one for peer pressure. I put pressure on peers. I never wanted to worry, I make people worry. I don’t get down like that. I am too darn confident. That is my natural odor.”

To no surprise, Sanders announced his presence in Boulder with authority. He had cameras following him as he met with Colorado players for the first time. How many other coaches would have recorded what many would see as a private moment for posterity and post it online?

Sanders caused a stir by putting his players on notice. He warned them he was coming, telling them they’ll be pushed so hard they might quit. He told them to enter the transfer portal and go someplace else if they don’t like what he and his staff are going to do.

That candor, that brutal honesty surprised many fans and media when they saw it Monday morning. For some, that message might have felt too familiar. How many in media — or many other industries — have worried about their job status when a new boss takes over? What may have seemed secure days earlier is now uncertain.

But how do we know other coaches haven’t said something similar when taking over at a new job and addressing their team? We just hadn’t seen it before. But Sanders has been in the media. He knows social media. He understands controlling his own message and telling his story.

Sanders also knows what kind of value he brings to any venture he takes on. How many people would have left an NFL Network gig for Barstool Sports? But Sanders went to where his star would shine, where he was the main show, where he could be Deion Sanders. Maybe he’ll have to turn that down just a bit at Colorado. But athletic director Rick George knows who he hired.

Colorado could have made a safer choice, including previous head coaches Tom Herman, Bronco Mendenhall, or Gary Patterson. A top assistant from one of this year’s Playoff contenders — such as Georgia’s Todd Monken, USC’s Alex Grinch, Alabama’s Bill O’Brien, or Michigan’s Sherrone Moore — could also have been an option.

But what fun would that have been? What kind of tremor would Colorado have created in the college football news cycle? How much attention would a more conventional hire have received? Yes, Sanders has to recruit and win. However, if the objective was to make Colorado football a talking point again, that’s been accomplished.

There could be some friction too. Sanders has already been criticized for being a champion of HBCUs, only to bolt for a mainstream Power 5 program when the opportunity opened. (To be fair, other columnists have defended the move.)

At Jackson State, Sanders tried to control local media when he didn’t like how reporters were addressing him or covering a story. Last year during Southwestern Athletic Conference Media Day, he balked at a Clarion-Ledger reporter addressing him as “Deion,” not “Coach,” insisting that Nick Saban would’ve been shown that respect. Earlier this season, Sanders admonished a school broadcaster (and assistant athletic director) for speaking to him more formally on camera than he did off-camera.

Will that fly among Boulder and Denver media, or the national college football press? It’s difficult to imagine. Maybe Sanders will ease back on his efforts to control reporters within a larger university environment, metropolitan area, and media market. But we’re also talking about Deion Sanders here. He doesn’t bend to outside forces. He makes them bend to him.

Sanders’ stint in Boulder — whether it lasts the five years of his contract and beyond, or less than that — will not be dull. There could be no better gift for the media covering Colorado football. Or college football, a sport already full of bold personalities, eccentric to unhinged fanbases, and outsized expectations. Coach Prime will fit right in.

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The Media Is Finally Strong Enough To Take On The Rose Bowl

“The whole Rose Bowl organization is stuck in a black and white TV world. The future playoff is Marty McFly stepping out of a Delorean and the Rose Bowl is the Enchantment Under the Seas Dance.”

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I am a sucker for packaging. Take me to a grocery store and show me a uniquely packaged sauce or condiment or waffle syrup and I’ll give it a try just based on bottle size or design. The one packaging ploy that has vexed me is the “biggie size” at the local drive through. I’m always interested in the largest drink possible but don’t necessarily want a grain silo full of fries passed through my window. The College Football Playoff is going “biggie sized” in 2024 and I’ll take all of that I can get.

The College Football Playoff Committee made official last week what had long been speculated, that the four-team playoff field would increase to 12 teams starting with the 2024 season. This was an inevitable move for money and access reasons. The power conferences and Notre Dame stand to gain significantly in TV revenue and the “non-power” conferences finally get the consistent access they have long craved.

What may have finally pushed the new playoff over the finish line was the end of an ultimate game of chicken between college football powers and the Rose Bowl.

There is a scene from the movie The Hunt for Red October when the rogue Russian nuclear submarine is trying to avoid a torpedo from another Russian submarine. The American captain, aptly played by Scott Glenn, tells Jack Ryan; “The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.”

The Rose Bowl finally flinched.

The only thing that delayed an earlier move to this new world was the insistence of the Rose Bowl Game to cling to the bygone era of the antiquated bowl system. Only in college football could an organization that runs a parade hold such outsized influence but, until recently, the Big Ten and PAC 12 gladly enabled their addiction to a specific television time slot.

Dan Wetzel is a Yahoo! Sports National Columnist, he also wrote the book Death to the BCS which laid out a very early argument for dumping the bowl system for a Playoff.

“The single hardest thing to explain to people is that the Rose Bowl and its obsession of having the sunset in the third quarter of its game was a serious impediment to a billion dollar playoff,” Wetzel wrote. 

Wetzel makes the point that simply moving the game up one hour would’ve helped the playoff TV schedule immensely, “They were adamant that they get to have an exclusive window on New Year’s Day, the best time of all, not only would they not give that up but they wouldn’t even move it an hour earlier (to help Playoff television scheduling) because then the sun would set at halftime.  It was so absurd but for a lot of years they got so much protection.”

We may never know what it was that finally forced the Rose Bowl to play ball with the rest of the college football world. There are many possibilities, not the least of which was the presence of SoFi Stadium just down the road. The College Football Playoff committee could have always taken the bold step of scheduling games at SoFi, in the Los Angeles market, opposite the Rose Bowl TV window to try to squeeze them out.

It is also possible the Rose Bowl scanned the landscape and realized that, if a 12-team playoff already existed, their 2023 game would’ve been Washington (10-2) versus Purdue (8-5). That shock of reality came with the understanding Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Utah and USC would enthusiastically choose a 12 team playoff bid over a Rose Bowl invite. That was the future the Rose Bowl faced with the departure of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten and the 12 team playoff gobbling up the top remaining PAC 12 teams.

I have proposed that theory to many people in the college football world and have received some version of this response from many of them: “They really wouldn’t care who is playing as long as they can still have their parade.”

That is one of the issues at play here; in many ways, the whole Rose Bowl organization is stuck in a black and white TV world. The future playoff is Marty McFly stepping out of a Delorean and the Rose Bowl is the Enchantment Under the Seas Dance.

One other possibility is that the television executives of the major networks, primarily FOX, may have put the pressure on the Big Ten and Pac 12 to have a little less interest in keeping college football stuck in the late 1970’s. It makes sense, FOX has nothing to gain by the Rose Bowl keeping influence. Fox may have everything to gain by getting a media rights cut of the future playoff. Many believe FOX was a driving force behind USC and UCLA bolting to the Big Ten. If that much is true, pressing for less Rose Bowl influence is child’s play.

No matter what was the catalyst to the expanded playoff, it worked and the fans benefited. College football is moving into a brave new world all because the college football powers finally stood up to the old man yelling at the clouds.

Turns out, it was all a game of chicken. And the Rose Bowl flinched.

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Andrew Perloff Learned From The Master of Sports Radio on Television

“I think I’m really lucky because I went from a really fun and supportive place in the Dan Patrick Show and have now transitioned into what I would also call a very fun and supportive place at CBS Sports Radio/Audacy.”

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It’s a fact of life that not everybody loves their job. To have a job that you love and have fun at is pretty special. For Andrew Perloff, life is good.

“I’m just watching so much sports during the week,” said Perloff. “I don’t come up for air watching sports and I love that.  And the fact that we get paid to sit on the couch for 72 hours…oh my God…it really is the best job in the world.”

That job is being the co-host of Maggie & Perloff weekdays from 3pm to 6pm eastern time on CBS Sports Radio and simulcast on CBS Sports Network. Perloff was an on-air personality on The Dan Patrick Show beginning in 2009 before making the switch to CBS Sports Radio for the new show with Maggie Gray that launched this past January.

And so far, the move has worked out.

“I’m really happy,” said Perloff. “I think I’m really lucky because I went from a really fun and supportive place in the Dan Patrick Show and have now transitioned into what I would also call a very fun and supportive place at CBS Sports Radio/Audacy. I miss the DP Show but I love my new co-workers. (Vice President of Programming) Spike Eskin and (New York Market President) Chris Oliviero have been great. We get a lot of support and a lot of help from those guys and they’ve made the transition so much easier.”

When a new radio program begins, chemistry between the hosts is vital to the success of the growth and success of the show. In the case of Maggie & Perloff, they had an existing friendship from their time working together at Sports Illustrated. 

And that relationship is certainly evident to the listeners.

“I’m having a great time with Maggie,” said Perloff who was an editor and contributing writer at Sports Illustrated and SI.com. “We knew each other pretty well at Sports Illustrated. We’ve been friends for a while now. I have gotten to know her a lot better through the show. It took a couple of months to really find our rhythm and get the show to where we wanted to get it.”

There has been a fun and evolving dynamic to the on and off-air chemistry between the hosts.  Perloff is from Philadelphia and a die-hard Eagles fan while Gray is a fan of the Buffalo Bills.  The Eagles have the best record in the NFC at 11-1 while the Bills are among the best teams in the AFC at 9-3.

Perloff has come to understand just how much Gray loves the Bills and there is a chance that their two teams could meet come February 12th in Arizona for Super Bowl LVII.

“She’s a very passionate Buffalo Bills fan,” said Perloff.  “I always knew that, but to actually sit there on a daily basis and see her sweat out every detail about the Buffalo Bills has been a lot of fun.  We’re keeping our fingers crossed that we’re on a collision course for the Super Bowl and we’re already trying to figure out a Super Bowl bet.”

The easy wager to set up would involve food.

If the Bills win, Perloff would have to give Gray some Philly cheesesteaks.

If the Eagles win, Gray would have to furnish Perloff with some Buffalo Wings.

But it appears as if management wants there to be more at stake for the potential bet.

“Our boss wants us to do something more severe,” said Perloff. “The truth is I’m an Eagles fan so I’ve already won my Super Bowl. Maggie, on the other hand, has no idea what that feels like. I almost feel sorry for her because it’s tough being a Bills fan.

“We have a pretty big rivalry with our team because she’s a Mets fan and I’m a Phillies fan. We get along great expect for those areas.”

The Maggie & Perloff chemistry extends throughout the show and that includes producer Michael Samtur who has his own rooting interests.

Samtur is a fan of the New York Jets who are having a better-than-expected season.

“When the Jets win, I don’t want to see Mike on Monday mornings because he’s smiling so much,” said Perloff. “He’s an unbelievably cynical Jets fan…it’s hysterically funny.

“Mike is doing a great job. It’s really an all-hands-on deck show. I think we all sort of kind of wear each other’s hats at certain times.”

An added element to the show is that it is also simulcast on CBS Sports Network. If there’s one thing that Perloff learned from working with Dan Patrick — who also has a simulcast on television — is that the program is a radio show that just happens to have cameras in the studio. At the end of the day, it’s a radio show on television and not a television show on the radio.

“That’s also my philosophy,” said Perloff. “From a logistical standpoint, to do a good radio show you can’t really focus on the TV side of it. For us, the foundation of the base is to really focus on the radio show and the TV and video comes naturally after that.”

Perloff’s resume also includes writing and co-writing an assortment of magazine stories, books, and television shows while also hosting his own weekend show on NBC Sports Radio from 2016 to 2019. But it was working on The Dan Patrick Show where he learned an important aspect of being a talk show host that he continues to live by at CBS Sports Radio.

What he learned was that you just have to be yourself.

“Dan always wanted us to be authentic in the sense that don’t try to be someone you’re not,” said Perloff. “Don’t try to come up with hot takes just for the sake of hot takes. When you listen to Dan Patrick on the radio, you’re really hearing Dan. He’s not a radically different person off air.”

This is a huge time of the year for sports radio. 

The NFL’s regular season is winding down and college football is heading towards bowl season and the College Football Playoff. Throw in the NBA, college basketball, NHL, and the World Cup and there’s so much going on in the sports world to talk about. 

Perloff can’t get enough of it.

“I love it so much,” said Perloff. “College football is just huge right now. When we bring up a college football story, the phone lines just light up which I think is a reflection of the growing interest in that sport. This is the best time of the year. It’s incredible.”

As Maggie & Perloff head towards their first anniversary on the air, there are goals and expectations heading into 2023. The show has grown tremendously over the course of the first year and while that may have occurred faster than expected, the hope is that the trend continues.

“I’ve been a little surprised by how fast the audience has grown and our connection with the audience,” said Perloff. “One of the great things about The Dan Patrick Show was the community feel with the show and all of the listeners. That’s definitely growing with us and I’d like to see that really take off next year. It makes it so much more fun when you’re doing the show and everybody is along for the ride.”

It’s been a great ride so far and it should be interesting to see what happens if that ride includes an Andrew Perloff vs Maggie Gray Super Bowl matchup in February. It’s not even because the breakdown of Eagles vs Bills would be fascinating but the audience wants more.

That Super Bowl bet would certainly be intriguing.   

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