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WEEI’s Greg Hill Is a Team Player

“I think you should do the laughing at yourself, and then you should be encouraging everybody else to laugh at you.”

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It’s easy to like Greg Hill. The Boston sports radio host is not a me guy. Hill just won a Marconi Award for Major Market Personality of the Year, but he’s more eager to talk about his WEEI cast members than himself. He prefers to highlight Jermaine Wiggins, Courtney Cox and Chris Curtis. Hill is like a star quarterback that would rather talk about his teammates during the postgame interview.

It goes beyond his current cast as well. Hill has roots in rock radio and attributes a lot of his current success to the people that once surrounded him at WAAF. People like Lyndon Byers, Danielle Murr, Mike Hsu and Spaz all played major roles in his achievements. Hill is like a humble MVP that says he couldn’t have won the award without his teammates, the training staff, the secretary or the custodian.

At the risk of making Hill sound like a modern-day prophet, the greatest example of being team-oriented is Hill’s foundation. At the end of the year, “The Greg Hill Foundation” will have donated $25 million to help people in need.

It’s an interesting blend; a major part of Hill’s success is to make people laugh and do zany things. Then Hill turns around, puts his grown-up pants on and thinks about how he can assist others. He isn’t worried about his stardom or how many Twitter followers he can accumulate as much as he’s focused on using his platform to help other people. Again, Greg Hill is easy to like.

We chat about the single greatest thing about the Boston area and waking up before the crack of dawn for 33 years. We also talk about developing chemistry, blatant disregard for traffic laws, and possibly the greatest Bill Belichick catchphrase of all time. Enjoy!

Brian Noe: I don’t know if I should call you Greg Hill or Mr. Marconi. What do you think?

Greg Hill: [Laughs] I think Greg is fine.

BN: [Laughs] Okay, that works. Have you been tempted to tell your crew, it’s Mr. Marconi from now on?

GH: [Laughs] No, because I hear it every day from Chris Curtis and Wiggy and everybody else who has no problem taking a shot at me on the show about it. I hear it an awful lot during the day.

BN: That’s a major deal to win that award. What does it mean to you?

GH: Yeah, it’s amazing and it’s a really cool thing. It’s something that I never thought would happen to me in this business. When you go to that event and there’s so many talented people in this business and so many talented people that are in these categories, it’s a really cool thing.

BN: How would you describe what it felt like to be there? Did it feel cool, or kind of stuffy and ritzy? How did it feel to be there?

GH: We all work in radio so when they do these dinners some of us just show up for the free chicken or whatever. It was a really cool group of people and it was a lot of people. It was great to reconnect with some people that I haven’t seen in a long time that I worked together with in the past. Nick Cannon was there and I don’t think he got anybody pregnant during the ceremony. It was a really cool thing to be a part of and a really amazing night.

BN: You’ve talked about how much your old show cast at AAF has meant to your success at EEI. What conversations have you had with your former co-workers since winning a Marconi?

GH: Yeah, it was really cool. I worked with Lyndon Byers and with Danielle and with Mike Hsu and with Spaz for — in a lot of cases — well over 20 years. They all immediately sent me a text about it. I was so happy for them too because the way I look at it, every single person that I’ve ever worked with has in most cases been more talented than I am, so for all of those people and everybody who has — and that’s not only on air — like everybody that we get to work with traffic-wise, marketing-wise, promotions-wise, all those people, without them there’d be no finished product. To me, it’s their award. No bullshit, it belongs to everybody that I ever worked with.

BN: If you hear a sports radio host, can you tell that they once did rock radio? Is there something in their approach or the way they sound that lets you know they’ve done more than just sports talk?

GH: I don’t know. I think radio people are radio people. I think in sports radio, there’s a lot of former athletes, and they know their sport and other sports really well. Then I think there’s radio people who are really great at being on the radio and know radio well. I don’t know if I could hear the difference based on somebody who’s been in rock radio. You mean like, do they sound stoned or something?

BN: [Laughs] Yeah, like they start talking about the Patriots and then say here’s some Depeche Mode or something. No, just kind of like their delivery. Is there a different vibe? Can you tell if someone had more than just a strictly sports hosting background?

GH: Yeah, I think you can because I think maybe the nuances. They’re less numbers and stats and more trying to find some unique way of talking about it.

BN: What have you been able to grab from your rock background that has helped you flourish as a sports radio host?

GH: Well, for a long time I did a talk show on a rock station. For the last, whatever it was, 15 years or 12 years that I was there, we didn’t play music. I think music appeals to everybody universally, so we still found a way to work music and other things into a discussion. I guess from my perspective, that’s what I try to do here is to find ways to approach talking sports differently at times in a way that sometimes appeals to everybody.

BN: Are you happy you made the transition over to sports radio?

GH: Yeah, I love it. I never would’ve thought going into this that we would end up with a similar group of people who have great chemistry together as on the AAF show. I’m just so lucky that we have that same or better chemistry, me and Wiggy and Curtis and Courtney. Anytime you make the change, you’re nervous about it and you wonder what it’s going to be like, and I couldn’t be happier with the way it’s gone for almost four years now believe it or not.

BN: Do you think there’s anything that you can do to strengthen chemistry, or is it just one of those it’s there or it’s not type things?

GH: I think doing things together as a group away from the radio show can somewhat help strengthen it, but I think it’s something that is either there or not. And if it’s not there, then it’s glaring when you listen on the radio, or when you see it elsewhere.

BN: What’s something that Jermaine does well, as an ex-athlete, that would work well for other ex-athletes who are now hosting shows?

GH: I think he’s fearless. I think he’ll say anything without thinking before he says it. [Laughs] I think he’s really good at talking sports, talking Patriots. He’s really good at breaking it down so that everybody understands it. I think he’s great at doing that with everything. There’s no topic that you can’t bring up with him that he doesn’t have immediate input on every single day.

BN: How about Courtney, what would you say is her biggest strength?

GH: I think one thing that Courtney really brings to the show is that she’s way, way younger than all of us. She brings a different perspective from kind of where she is in life. A lot of the listeners are there, so I think that’s really important. She also loves this business. This is her first radio job, but loves the business, and has a really unique perspective when it comes to the way she looks at sports in this city.

BN: How does Curtis fit in with you guys and what does he provide that gives you the most value?

GH: He’s the most cynical and normally spot-on-with-his-cynicism person that I’ve ever worked with. He probably is arguably the wittiest person that I’ve ever worked with and that we have on the show. There’s probably nobody who’s better at making fun of me and having a lot of laughs at my expense than he is. He’s indispensable.

BN: What would you say to hosts that don’t want to be the butt of the joke and can’t laugh at themselves?

GH: I would say this would not be the business for you. I think you should do the laughing at yourself, and then you should be encouraging everybody else to laugh at you because it’s the greatest common denominator that there is.

BN: With the interviews you do with Bill Belichick, when it’s the commercial break right before the interview begins, what’s going through your mind and how are you feeling about the upcoming interview?

GH: [Laughs] I am always wondering which question that we’re going to ask will elicit the longest pause. I kind of have a little bit of internal fun with myself in trying to come up with the most ridiculous question for him, the one that will finally send him into a complete tailspin and make him leave radio for good. We’ve actually been able to, I don’t know, a handful of times get a legitimate laugh out of him, which I think is probably a victory for us.

BN: What’s your favorite memory or story from all of the interviews you’ve done with him?

GH: Just because it’s so Bill, I think that we asked him a dumb question about Thanksgiving sides last year. There was no pause and his immediate answer was basically a 20-second run-through on every kind of way in which potatoes could be prepared. Then at the end of it, he said, starch me up, which is like the least Bill Belichick thing I think Bill Belichick has ever said. And again, I’m on a sports station and that was my favorite Bill Belichick moment, so that explains me in a nutshell.

BN: Aww man, I love that story. How would you describe what it’s like doing radio in Boston to someone who doesn’t do radio in Boston?

GH: I’ve never done radio anywhere else, so I don’t know; I would imagine that it’s not that different. There’s so much passion for sports here, and I’m sure it’s like other cities where the fan base is passionate, Philadelphia, New York, those cities where people are so into it that you literally can get 10 calls on a preseason game for the Bruins because people are so into sports here. They also can turn on a dime. They can be miserable one minute, Patriots lose and that’s it, the season’s done. Then you turn around and Bailey Zappe’s going to save the franchise. It’s a great city to do radio in general, having not been anywhere else.

BN: For the longest time, I always thought Boston was just so hardcore about sports, they didn’t want to be bothered with anything that wasn’t sports. But now I don’t think that’s the case. Is it more that they’re open-minded to have a laugh and talk about something non-sports for a little while, as long as you get back to sports eventually?

GH: Yeah, I think we basically want to bitch about sports and then bitch about the weather. In the winter, it’s too cold and miserable. Then in the summer, it’s too hot. Then everybody wants to bitch about traffic and bitch about why the politicians are doing what they’re doing. It’s kind of like a non-stop thing. The topic that people are complaining about just changes every day.

BN: Is there anything like politics or something else that you have a big interest in, that you really don’t spend a whole lot of time on during your show?

GH: No, I mean I think we try to talk about everything. My intent is that what we’re going to talk about on any given day is what is on the mind of 65% of the people that might listen. It doesn’t matter to me what the topic is as long as people are interested in it, and we can try to find a way to laugh about it.

BN: It says on the WEEI website that “The Greg Hill Foundation” has donated over $10 million since 2010. That’s amazing, man. What does that mean to you considering everybody that you’ve been able to help through the foundation?

GH: We will actually, at the end of this year, we will have donated $25 million. That, to me, is like — all kidding aside about people here, complaining and being Massholes — that, to me, is the single greatest thing about this region, where I grew up and where I get to live, is how generous people are. Not only our foundation, but so many incredible charities that are here, whether it’s the Jimmy Fund. The listeners of this radio station come out every year and without fail, donate over $3 million to the Jimmy Fund during our radio telethon. It’s amazing to me how much people give here, how they do it over and over again, and how important it is to them to give within the community. It’s an amazing thing.

BN: That’s awesome. It’s a random comparison, but it makes me think of my girlfriend. She’s from Mexico City. How things are shown on TV, you might have this image in your mind that the cartel is on every block there. It’s not like that. If you apply that to Boston, the way that it’s portrayed is that everybody’s crotchety. Would generosity be the thing that exists but most people don’t see?

GH: Yeah, for sure. And zero respect for any kind of traffic laws whatsoever. I think those are the two things.

BN: [Laughs] So they do have respect for the traffic laws?

GH: [Laughs] No, absolutely not. There’s blatant disregard. It’s everybody for themselves when you hit the roads around here. But I think people here, they don’t waste a lot of time walking down the street, pleasantries. I think people are on their way to do something and busy, and maybe that’s the impression that you get from the outside. But we are the most generous people; I’d put us up against anybody in the country when it comes to how much we care about other people.

BN: I’m not jinxing it, but if today ended up being your last radio show, what would you miss most about it?

GH: Probably the opportunity to be able to use the radio audience to help other people. We’re given this incredible platform. It’s a privilege to be able to be on the radio or beyond, the social media platform or whatever, it’s a privilege to be able to have people who are interested in what you do. For me, if I wasn’t on the radio anymore, I’d missed the opportunity to be able to help other people through the foundation or just in talking about things that people need, things that people are doing to change what’s going on around us. That, to me, would be the biggest thing I think I’d miss.

BN: What do you think you wouldn’t miss?

GH: Did you think I was gonna say free food?

BN: [Laughs] No, it’s a blank canvas for me. I have no preconceived, ohh, he’s probably gonna say this. Wherever it goes, it goes, man. It’s radio. What would you miss the least about it?

GH: Definitely the hours I think.

BN: What’s the alarm clock set on?

GH: 4:30. And only for like the last 33 years. So I wouldn’t mind sleeping in at some point in my life.

BN: Can you sleep in on the weekends?

GH: Yeah, if you call like 8:30 sleeping in. Yes, I guess.

BN: In terms of the future, let’s say over the next five years, what would you want it to look like?

GH: Radio is my passion. I can’t see not working in this business probably ever. I think the place that I’m at now, where the radio station is, is really exciting. The fact that we have the chemistry that we have on the show, and that we all like going to work with each other, like being in there for 20 hours a week, and whatever we do afterwards. I think it’s a place that I’d like to be at for a while. There’s a lot of cool stuff that we are doing, and that we can do, and that we should keep doing.

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Colorado Hiring Deion Sanders Will Be Constant Gift for College Football Media

“If Coach Prime achieves the same sort of success that he did with the Tigers, he will be far more than a curiosity. Sanders will be a disruptor.”

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Deion Sanders quickly made it clear why the University of Colorado chose him to be its next head football coach.

Coming off a weekend in which the four College Football Playoff teams were announced and all of the other bowl-eligible teams accepted their invitations, Colorado — which went 1-11 this past season — made news for hiring Sanders, the former NFL star who was phenomenally successful at Jackson State.

The media that covers college football and sports as a whole should be thrilled that the Buffaloes program decided to take a big leap for attention and notoriety. Sanders is a bold, risky hire. But he’s also been successful in virtually every venture he’s taken. “Primetime” had a Hall of Fame NFL career and also played Major League Baseball. And he’s a master at drawing attention to himself.

During his first meeting with his new team, Sanders made sure to mention that he has Louis Vuitton luggage to make the point that some of his Jackson State players are coming with him to Boulder — including his son, quarterback Shadeur Sanders. Nick Saban and Kirby Smart probably don’t cite luxury fashion when explaining to their players that they’ll have to compete for starting positions.

Coach Prime will not be boring to cover. (That self-appointed “Coach Prime” title, which was on his name plate at his introductory press conference, is a big clue there.) He never has been. This is a man who said during the 1989 NFL Draft, after being selected No. 5 overall by the Atlanta Falcons, that if the Detroit Lions had selected him at No. 3, he “would’ve asked for so much money, they’d have had to put me on layaway.”

Even if he doesn’t win as much as Colorado hopes, Sanders will pursue top talent — players who want to perform on a larger stage than the FCS-level Jackson State allows — and impact athletes will be attracted to him. He got the No. 1 recruit in the nation, cornerback and wide receiver Travis Hunter, to play for him. (Hunter is following his coach to Boulder.) Now that Sanders is at an FBS school in a Power 5 conference, more stars will surely come.

But if Coach Prime achieves the same sort of success that he did with the Tigers — going 27-5 in three seasons, including a 12-0 campaign in 2022 — he will be far more than a curiosity. Sanders will be a disruptor. And he’ll get the attention that such figures typically draw from media and fans. According to the Denver Post‘s Sean Keeler, at least 400 people attended what felt more like a celebration than a press conference.

Coach Prime wasn’t going to just win the press conference, which is what any school and fanbase want when a new coach is introduced.

If Colorado wanted someone to sit at a podium, and give platitudes like “We want to win the Pac-12 and get to the College Football Playoff,” “We’re going to build a program with young men you’ll be proud of,” or “It’s time to restore Colorado to the football glory we remember,” Sanders isn’t the guy for that.

“Do I look like a man that worries about anything? Did you see the way I walked in here? Did you see the swagger that was with me?” Sanders said during his introductory presser. “Worry? Baby, I am too blessed to be stressed. I have never been one for peer pressure. I put pressure on peers. I never wanted to worry, I make people worry. I don’t get down like that. I am too darn confident. That is my natural odor.”

To no surprise, Sanders announced his presence in Boulder with authority. He had cameras following him as he met with Colorado players for the first time. How many other coaches would have recorded what many would see as a private moment for posterity and post it online?

Sanders caused a stir by putting his players on notice. He warned them he was coming, telling them they’ll be pushed so hard they might quit. He told them to enter the transfer portal and go someplace else if they don’t like what he and his staff are going to do.

That candor, that brutal honesty surprised many fans and media when they saw it Monday morning. For some, that message might have felt too familiar. How many in media — or many other industries — have worried about their job status when a new boss takes over? What may have seemed secure days earlier is now uncertain.

But how do we know other coaches haven’t said something similar when taking over at a new job and addressing their team? We just hadn’t seen it before. But Sanders has been in the media. He knows social media. He understands controlling his own message and telling his story.

Sanders also knows what kind of value he brings to any venture he takes on. How many people would have left an NFL Network gig for Barstool Sports? But Sanders went to where his star would shine, where he was the main show, where he could be Deion Sanders. Maybe he’ll have to turn that down just a bit at Colorado. But athletic director Rick George knows who he hired.

Colorado could have made a safer choice, including previous head coaches Tom Herman, Bronco Mendenhall, or Gary Patterson. A top assistant from one of this year’s Playoff contenders — such as Georgia’s Todd Monken, USC’s Alex Grinch, Alabama’s Bill O’Brien, or Michigan’s Sherrone Moore — could also have been an option.

But what fun would that have been? What kind of tremor would Colorado have created in the college football news cycle? How much attention would a more conventional hire have received? Yes, Sanders has to recruit and win. However, if the objective was to make Colorado football a talking point again, that’s been accomplished.

There could be some friction too. Sanders has already been criticized for being a champion of HBCUs, only to bolt for a mainstream Power 5 program when the opportunity opened. (To be fair, other columnists have defended the move.)

At Jackson State, Sanders tried to control local media when he didn’t like how reporters were addressing him or covering a story. Last year during Southwestern Athletic Conference Media Day, he balked at a Clarion-Ledger reporter addressing him as “Deion,” not “Coach,” insisting that Nick Saban would’ve been shown that respect. Earlier this season, Sanders admonished a school broadcaster (and assistant athletic director) for speaking to him more formally on camera than he did off-camera.

Will that fly among Boulder and Denver media, or the national college football press? It’s difficult to imagine. Maybe Sanders will ease back on his efforts to control reporters within a larger university environment, metropolitan area, and media market. But we’re also talking about Deion Sanders here. He doesn’t bend to outside forces. He makes them bend to him.

Sanders’ stint in Boulder — whether it lasts the five years of his contract and beyond, or less than that — will not be dull. There could be no better gift for the media covering Colorado football. Or college football, a sport already full of bold personalities, eccentric to unhinged fanbases, and outsized expectations. Coach Prime will fit right in.

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The Media Is Finally Strong Enough To Take On The Rose Bowl

“The whole Rose Bowl organization is stuck in a black and white TV world. The future playoff is Marty McFly stepping out of a Delorean and the Rose Bowl is the Enchantment Under the Seas Dance.”

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I am a sucker for packaging. Take me to a grocery store and show me a uniquely packaged sauce or condiment or waffle syrup and I’ll give it a try just based on bottle size or design. The one packaging ploy that has vexed me is the “biggie size” at the local drive through. I’m always interested in the largest drink possible but don’t necessarily want a grain silo full of fries passed through my window. The College Football Playoff is going “biggie sized” in 2024 and I’ll take all of that I can get.

The College Football Playoff Committee made official last week what had long been speculated, that the four-team playoff field would increase to 12 teams starting with the 2024 season. This was an inevitable move for money and access reasons. The power conferences and Notre Dame stand to gain significantly in TV revenue and the “non-power” conferences finally get the consistent access they have long craved.

What may have finally pushed the new playoff over the finish line was the end of an ultimate game of chicken between college football powers and the Rose Bowl.

There is a scene from the movie The Hunt for Red October when the rogue Russian nuclear submarine is trying to avoid a torpedo from another Russian submarine. The American captain, aptly played by Scott Glenn, tells Jack Ryan; “The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.”

The Rose Bowl finally flinched.

The only thing that delayed an earlier move to this new world was the insistence of the Rose Bowl Game to cling to the bygone era of the antiquated bowl system. Only in college football could an organization that runs a parade hold such outsized influence but, until recently, the Big Ten and PAC 12 gladly enabled their addiction to a specific television time slot.

Dan Wetzel is a Yahoo! Sports National Columnist, he also wrote the book Death to the BCS which laid out a very early argument for dumping the bowl system for a Playoff.

“The single hardest thing to explain to people is that the Rose Bowl and its obsession of having the sunset in the third quarter of its game was a serious impediment to a billion dollar playoff,” Wetzel wrote. 

Wetzel makes the point that simply moving the game up one hour would’ve helped the playoff TV schedule immensely, “They were adamant that they get to have an exclusive window on New Year’s Day, the best time of all, not only would they not give that up but they wouldn’t even move it an hour earlier (to help Playoff television scheduling) because then the sun would set at halftime.  It was so absurd but for a lot of years they got so much protection.”

We may never know what it was that finally forced the Rose Bowl to play ball with the rest of the college football world. There are many possibilities, not the least of which was the presence of SoFi Stadium just down the road. The College Football Playoff committee could have always taken the bold step of scheduling games at SoFi, in the Los Angeles market, opposite the Rose Bowl TV window to try to squeeze them out.

It is also possible the Rose Bowl scanned the landscape and realized that, if a 12-team playoff already existed, their 2023 game would’ve been Washington (10-2) versus Purdue (8-5). That shock of reality came with the understanding Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Utah and USC would enthusiastically choose a 12 team playoff bid over a Rose Bowl invite. That was the future the Rose Bowl faced with the departure of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten and the 12 team playoff gobbling up the top remaining PAC 12 teams.

I have proposed that theory to many people in the college football world and have received some version of this response from many of them: “They really wouldn’t care who is playing as long as they can still have their parade.”

That is one of the issues at play here; in many ways, the whole Rose Bowl organization is stuck in a black and white TV world. The future playoff is Marty McFly stepping out of a Delorean and the Rose Bowl is the Enchantment Under the Seas Dance.

One other possibility is that the television executives of the major networks, primarily FOX, may have put the pressure on the Big Ten and Pac 12 to have a little less interest in keeping college football stuck in the late 1970’s. It makes sense, FOX has nothing to gain by the Rose Bowl keeping influence. Fox may have everything to gain by getting a media rights cut of the future playoff. Many believe FOX was a driving force behind USC and UCLA bolting to the Big Ten. If that much is true, pressing for less Rose Bowl influence is child’s play.

No matter what was the catalyst to the expanded playoff, it worked and the fans benefited. College football is moving into a brave new world all because the college football powers finally stood up to the old man yelling at the clouds.

Turns out, it was all a game of chicken. And the Rose Bowl flinched.

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Andrew Perloff Learned From The Master of Sports Radio on Television

“I think I’m really lucky because I went from a really fun and supportive place in the Dan Patrick Show and have now transitioned into what I would also call a very fun and supportive place at CBS Sports Radio/Audacy.”

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It’s a fact of life that not everybody loves their job. To have a job that you love and have fun at is pretty special. For Andrew Perloff, life is good.

“I’m just watching so much sports during the week,” said Perloff. “I don’t come up for air watching sports and I love that.  And the fact that we get paid to sit on the couch for 72 hours…oh my God…it really is the best job in the world.”

That job is being the co-host of Maggie & Perloff weekdays from 3pm to 6pm eastern time on CBS Sports Radio and simulcast on CBS Sports Network. Perloff was an on-air personality on The Dan Patrick Show beginning in 2009 before making the switch to CBS Sports Radio for the new show with Maggie Gray that launched this past January.

And so far, the move has worked out.

“I’m really happy,” said Perloff. “I think I’m really lucky because I went from a really fun and supportive place in the Dan Patrick Show and have now transitioned into what I would also call a very fun and supportive place at CBS Sports Radio/Audacy. I miss the DP Show but I love my new co-workers. (Vice President of Programming) Spike Eskin and (New York Market President) Chris Oliviero have been great. We get a lot of support and a lot of help from those guys and they’ve made the transition so much easier.”

When a new radio program begins, chemistry between the hosts is vital to the success of the growth and success of the show. In the case of Maggie & Perloff, they had an existing friendship from their time working together at Sports Illustrated. 

And that relationship is certainly evident to the listeners.

“I’m having a great time with Maggie,” said Perloff who was an editor and contributing writer at Sports Illustrated and SI.com. “We knew each other pretty well at Sports Illustrated. We’ve been friends for a while now. I have gotten to know her a lot better through the show. It took a couple of months to really find our rhythm and get the show to where we wanted to get it.”

There has been a fun and evolving dynamic to the on and off-air chemistry between the hosts.  Perloff is from Philadelphia and a die-hard Eagles fan while Gray is a fan of the Buffalo Bills.  The Eagles have the best record in the NFC at 11-1 while the Bills are among the best teams in the AFC at 9-3.

Perloff has come to understand just how much Gray loves the Bills and there is a chance that their two teams could meet come February 12th in Arizona for Super Bowl LVII.

“She’s a very passionate Buffalo Bills fan,” said Perloff.  “I always knew that, but to actually sit there on a daily basis and see her sweat out every detail about the Buffalo Bills has been a lot of fun.  We’re keeping our fingers crossed that we’re on a collision course for the Super Bowl and we’re already trying to figure out a Super Bowl bet.”

The easy wager to set up would involve food.

If the Bills win, Perloff would have to give Gray some Philly cheesesteaks.

If the Eagles win, Gray would have to furnish Perloff with some Buffalo Wings.

But it appears as if management wants there to be more at stake for the potential bet.

“Our boss wants us to do something more severe,” said Perloff. “The truth is I’m an Eagles fan so I’ve already won my Super Bowl. Maggie, on the other hand, has no idea what that feels like. I almost feel sorry for her because it’s tough being a Bills fan.

“We have a pretty big rivalry with our team because she’s a Mets fan and I’m a Phillies fan. We get along great expect for those areas.”

The Maggie & Perloff chemistry extends throughout the show and that includes producer Michael Samtur who has his own rooting interests.

Samtur is a fan of the New York Jets who are having a better-than-expected season.

“When the Jets win, I don’t want to see Mike on Monday mornings because he’s smiling so much,” said Perloff. “He’s an unbelievably cynical Jets fan…it’s hysterically funny.

“Mike is doing a great job. It’s really an all-hands-on deck show. I think we all sort of kind of wear each other’s hats at certain times.”

An added element to the show is that it is also simulcast on CBS Sports Network. If there’s one thing that Perloff learned from working with Dan Patrick — who also has a simulcast on television — is that the program is a radio show that just happens to have cameras in the studio. At the end of the day, it’s a radio show on television and not a television show on the radio.

“That’s also my philosophy,” said Perloff. “From a logistical standpoint, to do a good radio show you can’t really focus on the TV side of it. For us, the foundation of the base is to really focus on the radio show and the TV and video comes naturally after that.”

Perloff’s resume also includes writing and co-writing an assortment of magazine stories, books, and television shows while also hosting his own weekend show on NBC Sports Radio from 2016 to 2019. But it was working on The Dan Patrick Show where he learned an important aspect of being a talk show host that he continues to live by at CBS Sports Radio.

What he learned was that you just have to be yourself.

“Dan always wanted us to be authentic in the sense that don’t try to be someone you’re not,” said Perloff. “Don’t try to come up with hot takes just for the sake of hot takes. When you listen to Dan Patrick on the radio, you’re really hearing Dan. He’s not a radically different person off air.”

This is a huge time of the year for sports radio. 

The NFL’s regular season is winding down and college football is heading towards bowl season and the College Football Playoff. Throw in the NBA, college basketball, NHL, and the World Cup and there’s so much going on in the sports world to talk about. 

Perloff can’t get enough of it.

“I love it so much,” said Perloff. “College football is just huge right now. When we bring up a college football story, the phone lines just light up which I think is a reflection of the growing interest in that sport. This is the best time of the year. It’s incredible.”

As Maggie & Perloff head towards their first anniversary on the air, there are goals and expectations heading into 2023. The show has grown tremendously over the course of the first year and while that may have occurred faster than expected, the hope is that the trend continues.

“I’ve been a little surprised by how fast the audience has grown and our connection with the audience,” said Perloff. “One of the great things about The Dan Patrick Show was the community feel with the show and all of the listeners. That’s definitely growing with us and I’d like to see that really take off next year. It makes it so much more fun when you’re doing the show and everybody is along for the ride.”

It’s been a great ride so far and it should be interesting to see what happens if that ride includes an Andrew Perloff vs Maggie Gray Super Bowl matchup in February. It’s not even because the breakdown of Eagles vs Bills would be fascinating but the audience wants more.

That Super Bowl bet would certainly be intriguing.   

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